The Old Spice Guy, a Media Darling, Has a Dirty Secret: Some Sales Are Down

By Jim Edwards | July 16, 2010

  • UPDATE: It looks like total Old Spice sales may be up after all, even if sales of Red Zone body wash alone are down, according to Brandweek, which would render this entire post a wash …

Procter & Gamble (PG) faces an unpleasant dilemma on its Old Spice brand: Its campaign — featuring an impossibly handsome man in a towel who tells women, “So ladies, should your man smell like an Old Spice man? You tell me” — is hugely popular but sales of the product are going down. The campaign reached a climax this week as the Old Spice Guy filmed more than 200 improvised videos replying to questions and requests from Twitter users. Alyssa Milano, Rose McGowan, the Ellen Show and Perez Hilton were among those who got YouTube-ed replies.

But the shower-fresh brand has a dirty secret, as Brandweek notes:

For instance, it was none other than P&G that picked up the Film Grand Prix this year for Old Spice’s “The Man Your Man Could Smell Like” TV spot from Wieden + Kennedy. There is little doubt about the viral hit’s popularity. Launched in February, the official version has racked up nearly 12.2 million YouTube views.

But sales of the featured product—Red Zone After Hours Body Wash—aren’t necessarily tracking with that consumer appeal: In the 52 weeks ended June 13, sales of the brand have dropped 7 percent according to SymphonyIRI. (That amount excludes those rung up at Walmart.) P&G execs were not available to comment.

For a less high-profile effort, P&G could easily ax the campaign and choose a different strategy. Lowering its price might be an option. But cancelling Old Spice Guy while he’s a certified media darling — do a search for “Old Spice” in Google News and you’ll see what I mean — would be a PR debacle.

The shame of it is that ad biz folk have been urging P&G to get more creative for years. And the company has responded. Not so long ago, virtually every P&G commercial featured a housewife in a kitchen worrying over why she couldn’t get her husband’s shirts/plates/floor clean. Now, P&G is regarded as one of the more innovative marketers on the planet despite its elephantine corporate size. That’s an unusual combination.

The campaign was launched at the Super Bowl in February, so Old Spice Guy still has time to turn the situation around.

Just so you can appreciate the transformation — and get an idea of what’s at stake, culturally, for the Old Spice brand — compare and contrast its current advertising to the Old Spice of yore, (a smell I still associate mostly with my grandfather).

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RE: The Old Spice Guy, a Media Darling, Has a Dirty Secret: Sales Are Down
And this comes as a surprise. Jesus, I never understood the brief the agency came up with to sell the idiot CMO this asinine creative. I don?t care how many of you rave about the creative or HITS on YouTube it?s generated, Old Spice was never going to be bought by the metrosexuals males of today. My choice would have been to go after the men, who look like they don?t spend the day in a spa and who say no to smelling like a girl. But then, there's not a lot of them around today.
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mick 7364
07/19/2010 07:44 AM
RE: The Old Spice Guy, a Media Darling, Has a Dirty Secret: Sales Are Down
Hmmm..."excludes [sales] rung up at Walmart" Giant missing link, no?
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lmoralescook
07/19/2010 08:10 AM
RE: The Old Spice Guy, a Media Darling, Has a Dirty Secret: Sales Are Down
This analysis is highly flawed. In measuring offline CPG purchase
lift, one would have to take into account exposure, sure, but
also the purchase cycle of the goods featured - I would imagine
that for something like body wash, we're looking at around 60
days (a couple of months.)

Now, it would be interesting to see if there's a rise in cumulative
purchase in the 60 days following the superbowl ad.

As for the viral campaign that went live last week for 48
consecutive weeks, we would have to examine the cumulative
purchase increase in the next 60 days. This gives people who
were exposed to the campaign time to run out of their current
product, go to the store, weigh in on their options in body
wash, and make a decision.

It's disappointing to see such sensationalist analysis here.
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liddybird
07/21/2010 08:34 PM
RE: The Old Spice Guy, a Media Darling, Has a Dirty Secret: Sales Are Down
The 7% decrease originally reported by AdWeek was an example of misreported facts. Sales are actually up 16.7%. So if you want to be taken seriously as an industry blogger, you may want to fact check before spreading bad journalism.

Forbes.com reported the facts accurately - http://www.forbes.com/2010/07/15/old-spice-youtube-procter-gamble-twitter-facebook-cmo-network-social-media-advertising.html.

So those of you who think the strategy is off on this campaign just don't understand how to advertise to certain markets.
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profchristy
07/21/2010 11:31 PM
RE: The Old Spice Guy, a Media Darling, Has a Dirty Secret: Sales Are Down
Just to clarify, the "Man Your Man Could Smell Like" Old Spice ad didn't actually debut during the Super Bowl. It came out around the same time and got a lot more attention than most of the actual spots, but it didn't air during the game.
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DavidGriner
07/22/2010 07:08 AM
RE: The Old Spice Guy, a Media Darling, Has a Dirty Secret: Sales Are Down
You hit the nail on the head with one statement: "a smell I still
associate mostly with my grandfather." My 81 year-old dad uses
Old Spice and has for years. God bless the ad agency that can
turn it into a product that the Axe generation would considering
using because, no matter how viral the ad, at the end of the day
it's still a product used by older men. And though the older I get,
the more I look like my dad, I don't want to smell like too.
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pchaney@...
07/22/2010 08:59 AM
RE: The Old Spice Guy, a Media Darling, Has a Dirty Secret: Sales Are Down
Buzz doesn't always equal conversion, does it?

The comments I received on my post ("The Ad Your Ad Could Smell Like") revealed a real split between the "buzz is king, you idiot" and "isn't marketing supposed to sell stuff?" factions.

These two groups really should talk. Then, the second group should start reducing the headcount of the first.

Link is here, for those interested: http://bit.ly/cIdN1r

Thanks!

@Note_to_CMO
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Stephen Denny
07/22/2010 10:56 AM
Incorrect conclusions...
One huge problem with this article - the YouTube/Twitter campaign that just ended ran in mid-July, and your story notes that sales are down for reporting through June 13th.

It's logically incorrect for BrandWeek - and BNET- to jump to the conclusion that sales are down "despite" the W+K campaign, since your numbers don't even take the time period of the campaign into account.
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Lani & Allen Voivod
07/22/2010 04:12 PM
BNET Blogger
RE: The Old Spice Guy, a Media Darling, Has a Dirty Secret: Sales Are Down
I've updated this post to reflect new information which suggests that Old Spice sales are up over all, even though Red Zone sales might be down.
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BNET's Jim Edwards
07/26/2010 01:11 PM
RE: The Old Spice Guy, a Media Darling, Has a Dirty Secret: Sales Are Down
I teased my boyfriend for years for wearing Old Spice Deodorant, which I teased was Old "man" Spice. I got caught up in the new campaign because I found the Old Spice guy pretty funny and was sharing all the You Tube videos with my boyfriend. He felt that the guy's popularity vindicated his use of deodorant all these years and guess what, he bought the body wash. He doesn't like it that much, but it got him to try it out.
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CatalynTorr
07/28/2010 01:54 PM
Looks like old spice guys ok arfer all
Well look like sales were OK after all, yes i read the gloom and doom reports but I dont think they told the whole story, in fact looks that sales are actually rocketing wrote about it here:

http://www.siliconbeachtraining.co.uk/blog/old-spice-campaign-a-lesson-in-social-media/
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09/02/2010 11:13 AM

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