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04/05/07 | Report as spam
Competitor's Secrets
Very clear explanation on the issue
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04/17/07 | Report as spam
How to do it the legal way?
I really enjoyed this article as it explains in plain English how not to go about getting your competitors info.
Now what is missing are the right ways to go about it. That would be a perfect follow up to this article.
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05/13/07 | Reported as spam
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07/10/07 | Report as spam
Interesting
Couldnt help laughing at just how far company reps go to stay ahead of the competition.Clues about doing things the right way will be much appreciated.
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08/23/07 | Report as spam
Excellent article. I just hope that the espionage advocates take note!
Competitive Intelligence is legal and ethical. Industrial Espionage is not. The trouble is that too many people confuse the two - and too many consultants try and profit from that confusion.
The HP saga is one story but the P&G trash sifting story is perhaps worse as it involved a leader in the competitive intelligence community. He brought shame on himself and the whole profession ended up looking as dirty as P&G.
It isn't necessary to go through trash to find what is needed to compete. If you need to resort to such techniques then your methods are as trashy as your ethics.
In fact, the secret is good analysis. With minimal information and excellent analysis you can gain more at a lower cost than with maximum data but lousy analysis. That is what separates data from intelligence - the analysis. It's not the quantity that counts but the quality, and going for the trash is an approach that says "quantity counts, not quality".
So keep being ethical. If you can't tell your grandmother or priest /rabbi/iman about it then DON'T DO IT!
(Shameless plug here. Our approach to CI ethics is at http://www.marketing-intelligence.co.uk/ethics.htm)
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08/23/07 | Report as spam
the right way
There are 4 core principles of CI ethics:
1. Don't misrepresent yourself - give your right name and the name of the company for whom you work. If you use a vendor, they must give the correct name of their company (not yours).
2. Don't induce or threaten anyone to get information; i.e. don't pay them, get them drunk, offer them a job, intimate they won't get your business, etc. to get them to tell you what you want to know.
3. Don't employ any surreptitious means; i.e. no spycraft, no dumpster diving, no photography where not permitted -- basically nothing that would require your competitor to take extraordinary means to protect their information.
4. Respect the confidential information of others
a. don't seek the confidential internal documents of others and return any document you receive accidentally without reading or using it.
b. ask if a human source is covered by an NDA if you have reason to expect that he/she would be or if they begin telling you things that sound like they would normally be confidential. If they are, the conversation's over.
Keep in mind that at least 80% (sometimes 100%) of what you NEED to know is in the public domain if you think creatively and put in the work. The rest can be inferred from small bits of information from primary sources -- small enough that they don't raise any ethical issues. Learn the art of elicitation. In CI, close enough is good enough to make a better decision. It's about perspective, not precision
JerryH
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07/09/08 | Report as spam
The REal World
I think the original article is very good and spot on. However, some of the "holier-than-thou" user responses actually make me laugh. As a consultant in this area, I can tell you that companies push publically all these same ethical responses and rules. Privately, they lean so heavily on outside consultants to get detailed competitor information "at all costs" (especially threatening to terminate your contract and find someone that will do the job) that there has become a "don't ask, don't tell" strategy about how competitive information is obtained. Companies don't want the legal & ethical issues that come with "grey-area" competitor research but, at the same time, push to get detailed information up to the point of threatening to fire you and your company. ANd the comment that 80% of all competitor information is publically available is B.S. That individual obvious has never worked for a Fortune 500 company that demands to understand their competitors' future roadmaps. There is academic discussion and there is the real world people. I have to battle customers everyday to stay on the right side of the law and the ethical line. Unfortunately, this has caused great strife as I have to continual fire clients (and be fired) for not being willing to step over the line to gain that competitive edge that companies demand. THAT is the real world.
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08/25/07 | Report as spam
Stealing competitors secret
The thin line seperating ethical and unethical ways of accessing competitors information can be adhered by following the Golden rule " Do not do unto others what thou shall not have done unto yourself"
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08/27/07 | Report as spam
RE: Thou Shalt Not Steal Thy Competitor's Secrets
it is quite fair.
Dr Kumardatt
MBA PhD
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01/31/08 | Report as spam
How about a time-tested, simple rule?
I'm amazed at the number of articles and books that could be condensed into one simple statement: Live your life by the Golden Rule. For those unfamiliar with the Rule, it goes something like this: "do unto others as you would have them do to you". This advice exists in every religion and culture in the world, in different forms.
Crafting lengthy articles to explain this to business professionals says something about our faith in others and ourselves.
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01/31/08 | Report as spam
Then how to access the real situation!
Now we know one should not follow Unethical Practices to get Competition data.
But at times it is a requirementr of the organisation to know such things.
For example how much is my competition paying for the same component that goes goes into making the product.
And Strategically also a numbers of decisions have to be taken keeping in mind the Competition and the market.
What should be done then??