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Who Is Nouriel Roubini?

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Is economist Nouriel Roubini a prophet or a perpetual pessimist who happened to get it right? In 2004, the New York University professor started to see disturbing trends he thought would lead to a crippling U.S. recession and a global slowdown. While other economists echoed his view at times, Roubini was the most consistent and bearish, even when his predictions failed to happen. So, most mainstream economists dismissed him simply as a perma-bear.

Five years after his initial warnings, he's one of the most sought-after advisers in the world, strategizing with entities like Congress and international finance ministries.  

Key Stats

  • Name: Nouriel Roubini
  • Also known as: “Dr. Doom”
  • Age: 50
  • Profession: NYU economics professor, co-founder of the economic-analysis firm RGE Monitor.
  • Why he matters: Since 2004, Roubini has been the most pessimistic — and most accurate — predictor of the economic crisis. People ignored him then. They don't anymore.  
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His Predictions

While other economists thought the real estate bubble would burst, they didn't realize the extent of the devastation because housing is only about 6 percent of America's GDP. Roubini, however, was one of the few who saw the link between housing and consumer spending, which makes up more than 70 percent of the U.S. GDP and about 25 percent of the world's purchases of goods and services. As real estate prices soared, consumers used home equity loans to finance more expenditures.“(T)he only way you can liquefy your wealth is by using your home as your ATM machine, and that is exactly what has happened in the last few years,” Roubini told an audience at the International Monetary Foundation in 2006.

Roubini also saw the makings of a massive, global trade imbalance. The U.S. was borrowing from China to purchase Chinese goods. China was buying commodities from Latin America and the Middle East to produce those goods. If China experienced any internal disruptions and it stopped financing the U.S., the dollar would devalue, consumer spending would drop, and a global economic slowdown would result.

Bottom line: America was borrowing from other countries to fund consumption and housing rather than productive investments that create exportable goods and services. Roubini concluded the trend was unsustainable. “The bursting of the housing bubble is going to lead to broader systemic banking problems,” he told the IMF audience. “The rest of the world is not going to be able to decouple from the U.S. even if it is not going to experience an outright recession like the United States.”

His Method

While many economists rely mostly on rigorous econometric formulas, Roubini assumes that quantitative methods alone can't explain unprecedented moves in the global economy. So, he adds a heavy dose of intuition, historical analogies, and circumstantial observation to his work. He derives most of his forecasts from simple data like supply-and-demand models and ratios of home price versus rent and home price versus income. Other economists use computers to crunch data, but Roubini uses his brain, says Christian Menegatti, lead analyst at Roubini's firm RGE Monitor.

His nontechnical framework has been likened to those used by noted economists Joseph Stiglitz and Paul Krugman. And Roubini told the New York Times that Alan Greenspan and John Maynard Keynes have influenced his methodology. His approach to economics isn't radical, but his style can be considered flamboyant, says Brad Setser, who co-wrote a book with Roubini and is now a fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations Center for Geoeconomics. A recent Roubini blog post illustrates the point: “(T)hese Bush hypocrites who spewed for years the glory of unfettered wild west laissez faire jungle capitalism allowed the biggest debt bubble ever to fester without any control (and) have caused the biggest financial crisis since the Great Depression.”

The Debate

Anirvan Banerji, director of research at the Economic Cycle Research Institute, praises Roubini for correctly capturing the nature of the crisis but points out that his timing was repeatedly off. What if the Fed had adjusted interest rates or businesses stopped hiring based on impending recessions that didn't occur?

But, Darrell Duffee, a finance professor at Stanford's Graduate School of Business, says timing is not so important. "His skeptical commentary has been very, very useful," says Duffee, who added that Roubini's warnings were meant to straighten out the financial sector. Indeed, in November 2004, Roubini warned on his blog, “(S)erious financial distress from unsustainable fiscal and current account deficits cannot be ruled out.”

Banerji also criticizes Roubini for changing his justifications for the recession as he kept missing the timing. First it was the trade deficit, then oil price shocks, then the housing downturn, and finally the credit crisis, Banerji says. "There's something lacking in terms of understanding what triggered the recession," he adds.

Supporters argue that Roubini emphasized different vulnerabilities but his overarching argument remained the same. "The U.S. wasn't borrowing from the world to finance productive investment (and) that process would end badly," says Setser.

His Solution

Roubini expects things to get worse before they get better and predicts the recession will last at least until the end of 2009. In general, he advocates for the government to stabilize the economy through monetary and fiscal policy. Here are his recommendations to stop the credit crisis:

  • Temporarily freeze all foreclosures.
  • Create massive fiscal stimulus packages of at least $400 billion for public works, infrastructure spending, unemployment benefits, and tax rebates to lower-income households. Provide grants to state and local governments in dire need of funding.
  • Coordinate interest-rate cuts globally.
  • Temporarily insure all bank deposits. Allow insolvent banks to shut down and partially nationalize solvent but distressed banks.
  • Open credit lines to solvent financial institutions and companies.
  • Inject money into banks by buying equity.
  • Coordinate a global effort to gradually adjust trade imbalances.

Policy makers around the world have heeded most of Roubini's suggestions. Hopefully the one who saw it all coming sees the correct solution as well.

 
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    nanny138

    01/07/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    Darell Duffee's comment that timing isn't important is simply silly.

    If one were to forecast a a downpour sometime in the next three years, with pretty good weather beforehand, would you wear a raincoat every day?

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    bearish

    01/07/09 | Report as spam

    Timing

    I disagree. You can steal something, but the "timing" of the theft is concident with its discovery.

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    ipepple

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    Timing

    I think the analogy of rain weakens the argument to some degree. If I were to forecast a tornado that will severely damage your house, does timing necessarily matter for you to take precautionary measures? Perhaps something along the lines of purchasing insurance or strengthening the structure would be useful.

    In this case, it is a gray area that full-out prevention may not be the only solution. While it's unrealistic to cater to all doom-sayers, in this case it seemed Roubini may very well have been standing on firm economic principals.

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    gfertig@...

    01/08/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    How about someone even better, Ereic Jenson at www.itulip.com He saved my financial ass.

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    jbs5280

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    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    Here's the deal- in our country and possibly other parts of the world, people will NOT deal with reality, period. Anytime someone with expertise, intelligence speaks of something negative happening in the future, people turn a blind eye. Search on the internet for an on-going study titled, See No Evil in Unethical Behavior. While the specific part of unethical behavior may not be the issue here, but it is in many instances related to lending, etc. this study illustrates how people turn a blind eye to a BGO (blinding glimpse of the obvious) even when they know it will have a direct, negative effect on them. So, it's not to hard to imagine Roubini being discounted when he's speaking about doom for the future. I for one applaud his insight and to look for one single thing that 'triggered' the recession, is stepping over dollars to pick up dimes. It's a system of things, not a single event.

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    wandacleo

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    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini?

    I live in CA. I KNOW an earthquake is coming sometime; I just
    don't know when.
    However, I have batteries, dry food, and water stored.
    Only a fool waits until a disaster strikes when there's a clear sign
    it's coming.

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    kiskhan

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    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    All these Economists are pure BS and as a
    matter of fact the entire Stock market is crap.
    This is just controlled by handful of
    individuals and the rest follow suit into a
    black hole. The only solution is Save your
    earnings and don't entrust your hard earned
    money with these people.

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    mawilliams1

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    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    He was not the only one who saw this disaster coming. The ones who COULD have done something to prevent it were too busy profiting from it.

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    catkin_100

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    PETER SCHIFF

    Roubini's "solutions" are ridiculous and will only prolong and may even worsen the economic situation. The only real solution is to let the market correct itself..yes people will be laid off, banks will close, and business will die but these things happen in any economy.

    It's crazy to think that we can spend our way out of this using government bailouts that reward business that should be gone due to lack of management or sound business principles.

    Research a guy named Peter Schiff...he's the real doctor doom and also accurately predicted the current crisis in 2004.

    Watch a few of his recent interviews.
    http://www.europac.net/video.asp

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    Susan Kuhn

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    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    Roubini wrote a famous essay that described the 12-step process that the recession would take; no one took him seriously.

    Here is a link to it on my blog http://tr.im/3a8w. (It's password protected on his website.) Like the BNET article says, it is the reasoning process that is striking. When others relied too much on econometric models that hid the growing fragility of global economic growth, Roubini's work is clear and full of common sense. The US government could have put in place sensible policies, such as limiting the home equity and no-doc loans that are at the heart of this scenario, had anyone listened......

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    Susan Kuhn

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    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    As I read Roubini's advice, he is emphasizing opening credit to *solvent* financial institutions and companies. Right now we are doing the opposite and bolstering those institutions holding toxic assets. I for one perfer his prescription to that of Hank Paulson. And I like the foreclosure freeze - something has to be done about the 20 million Americans at risk.

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    stevewyattbrooks

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    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    Lets just hope things turn around by the end of 09. Sounds a bit optimistic to me.

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    acharya_r

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    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    Hey, while travelling in the US throughout the 1990s and 2000s I told my wife and friends that this whole thing was a house of cards.

    Yet everyone was so proud of this new economy - built on legal services, finance, hairdressing and real estate. I was always a liitle bit peeved and jealous watching peolple like myself who are involved in real wealth creation like manufacturing fall behind.

    A real shame that the whole thing was allowed to happen - but a lot of people ignored the warning signs.

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    Rational_Observer

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    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    Well, I saw quite of News Inerviews on various networks. As an immigrant of long standing worked hard for a long time about the : Home Equity Loans pitching away into our equity in the houses and taking care of expenses through that to find the drop in Real estate does not afford for people who stil have to pay for those first secod and third sometimes mortgages... It is true that those could save have immensely profited from it, and when you see Squak Street on the CNBC you can just feel the pulse of the people who are mostly supportive of the Financial Geneii - use the IQ for Ponzi schmes.. and let the customer be aware.. any regualtion is bad.. blame the congress.. Govt Agencis; we will do what we want. don't let any body tell us.. I am tired of that people don't want to stand for the ordinary folks..

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    ingoodcompany

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    Anyone want to guess when was these were written?

    Glad someone has capitalized on the ability to get lucky. Anyone want to venture a guess when THESE quotes were written?

    "Debts from the use of credit cards and installment buying reached a new record in the United States. For the first time in history, the $300-billion mark was passed. This includes the use of credit cards issued by banks, retail stores and gasoline companies; and installment purchases including such things as automobiles and mobile homes. However, the statistics do not include the more than $750 billion that the nation?s families owe for their homes. Some economists fear that too many people are taking on more debt than they can handle. In addition to the heightened concern for increasing personal bankruptcies, it is also feared that such heavy borrowing now will force retrenchment later. This means that people deeply in debt would have to purchase less in the near future, resulting in a sag in the economy. This is just the opposite of what economists say would be needed to spur business activity, particularly in a time of recession."

    "?How many more crises can the world?s financial system survive?? asks a New York Times editorial. Nations such as Argentina, Brazil and the Philippines, which have just been bailed out, are once again in financial trouble. Around the world, more than 40 countries are steeped in foreign debt, totaling about $700 billion (U.S.). Some countries are choked by interest payments as high as half of their export earnings, and the hope of expanding their exports is hampered by the generally sluggish world economy. Bankruptcy would be another way out, but ?the human toll would be ghastly and the political consequences could be revolutionary,? says the editorial. Though past rescue efforts by the industrialized nations have prevented bankruptcy, ?each new crisis casts doubt on the adequacy of what?s been done,? observes the Times, and it increases ?the risks that what can be done the next time will not be enough.?"

    ""Banks in the United States are failing at the fastest rate since the 1930?s, reports the Los Angeles Times. ?Although the U.S. banking system is generally sound and chances of a major disaster are remote,? states the article, ?developments in recent years have made the system increasingly risky.? Eight of the largest banks in the United States have lent more than their entire net worth to Mexico, Brazil, Argentina and Venezuela. A series of defaults by these nations could push the banks over the brink into insolvency. If the debt crisis becomes much worse, experts fear that financial, political or social upheavals will follow in the debtor nations."

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    spederson@...

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    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    A genius!

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    Janessa92708

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    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    I give up -- when was it written??

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    caddit

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    Seven points not a solution

    Roubini might have understood the the logistical and financial variables which lead to recession. But his apparent "seven points" don't make sense.

    How can a government already in extreme debt come up with a $400 billion stimulus package? According to http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/18/AR2008111803558.html at least part of it must be borrowed - much of it from China.

    At the same time, the American consumers still insists they have all the best 'because we're American's after all'.

    Sounds more like a spanking is in order for a very naughty and irresponsible child. The only shame is that the rest of the world suffers to a smaller degree while their main export market gets what it deserves.

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    geneva1

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    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    Just another "expert". There's always one so-called genius that gets their predictions spot on aren't there? It's simply a numbers game and some "genius of the week" is bound to have called a certain situation and look amazing.
    Take 1000 people and each have one predict a different score of this year's Super Bowl. Amazingly, someone will get it exactly right and be looked on as another genius. With enough people making different predictions, someone will get it right, but it's just a guess.
    Someone will ALWAYS get it right...one time. But a true expert will get it right time and time again. When this guy can accurately tell us when the economy will recover and he's correct, then come back with another story.

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    mmatusik

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    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    So, fix abnormal levels of debt with more debt. That make sense only for utter moron. O, wait a minute that is all of us. Number one; immoral society get the results dirrectly proportional to their immorality - hence the Wall Street. When it started people who created the "Wall street" had moral standards we do not even know today what they might have been. That is why the American dream of the past was possible. The whole economical problem is based on the fact we have no standards anymore, liberalism failed. And so we have economy we deserve and there is only a very few (but they have no power at the present) who realize that there is no free market in the world, this was not caused by capitalism, it does not exist (maybe China?). The governmental interference in the business affairs exceeded level of Fascism long time ago and we are well on the way to socialism/communism, comrades.

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    ingoodcompany

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    Anyone want to guess when was these were written?

    Those are all quotes from news sources, each published between 1980 and 1984. These things are cyclical. The "genius" of it is simply not predicting things too far ahead of the cycle.

    But at the same time, the cycles are getting worse each time as the amount of money that exists in the economy increases. As it goes "off center", the wobbles become more intense, like the wobble of a spinning top goes farther out of wack with each spin. Its only a matter of time before the spinning top falls over (a huge "reset") of the economy) and the top will have to be pumped up to speed again. But if there isn't enough economic energy left to do that...well...

    This quote from 1986:

    "Have economists, with all their theories and charts, solved the world?s money problems? In recent years, much has been said about economic theory. There has even been talk of going back to the teachings of Adam Smith and to trusting completely in the free market system. But most people realize that we face problems bigger than individuals or economists can handle. Thus, some government control is seen by many as a necessity. An article in Saturday Review once said: ?A humane economy requires more than prosperity and economic growth, more than efficient allocation of resources. It demands changes in the framework of economic institutions to achieve greater equality and freedom. .?.?. It requires a social environment that brings a sense of community and fellowship into human relationships. It demands compatibility among man, his technology, and the natural environment. And all of these things must be done on a worldwide scale. But achieving such ?a humane economy? is far from easy. Today, wealth still tends to gravitate to the rich and away from the poor. A lasting solution based on human efforts alone eludes man. Recession, depression, inflation, stagflation, zero growth, and negative growth thus remain familiar words to those who follow the economic news, even in the richest countries."

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    SursumTX

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    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    At least his solutions are pretty much the direction we're going. I'd like to see a foreclosure freeze honto pronto.

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    ingoodcompany

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    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    A good friend, an economist, explained it this way:

    ?...three important facts.

    ?The first is that the current crisis was not caused by sub prime defaults but by ARM defaults after the fed raised interest rates. In truth, the fed caused the current crisis by dropping fed funds rate to one percent after 9-11, letting all kinds of people borrow in order to fuel a non existent economy then raising rates for fear of inflation that also didn't exist based on oil price data.

    The second -- fact is that current bail out policies that include dropping fed funds rates low - will do the same thing again in the future.

    The third important fact is that when an economic downturn reduces property and commodity values it occurs in two stages. In the first stage, stock markets fall by half. In the second stage people lose their jobs because people have half the money they thought they had. In the second stage the stock market drops by half again.

    The process takes four or five years to play out - maybe more.

    In the current scenario - baby boomers will be retiring en masse as all of this bottoms out (yes they will continue to work if they can - but those without jobs will retire).?

    The only way out of the mess is to produce something of value that everyone in the world will buy. Until we do that we will be a third world nation.

    You?ve heard many commentators say, ?We just don?t know where the bottom is.? But if the rule of economic compression is half, then half again, as my economist buddy suggests, this means ?the bottom? is the DOW at about 4,000. The current recession arguable began in earnest about two years into President Bush?s second term, which means if this economist is right, we could see the DOW at 4,000 or 5,000 in roughly three years or so, depending on how long the new President Obama?s economic team can stave it off.

    Remember, this thing is far from done yet. Commercial mortgages and related derivatives products are next to crumble before our eyes. What next? I don?t know. But fasten your seatbelts and hold onto your wallets. We?re about to be turned upside down again on this roller coaster, and the change will be shaken out of our (tax) pockets again and come raining down into the waiting arms of the banks below.

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    JayCee1

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    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    All the expertise in the world is irrelevant if noone heeds the advice. There were many knowledgeable people predicting the current crisis five or more years back. My studies never went past 200 level economics and even I could understand that excessive credit was unsustainable. I am also old enough to remember earlier recessions. So I heeded the advice, clear away credit and went back to cash, minimum superannuation investments and only a handful of shares. It isnt rocket science. For those that failed to heed the advice,that stuck their heads in the sand and continued to believe that expenses higher than income is sustainable, I have no pity on you. I do not support Roubini's ideas for propping up a failing economy, likewise market forces will not be effective either. I understand the next generation will not learn from this experience and it will make no difference whether we prop up the economy or allow market forces to prevail - the same thing will happen in ten, fifteen or even twenty years time, so long as we allow individuals to speculate with other peoples money.

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    roger_jolley@...

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    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    The seven steps describe the current tactics proposed by the Obama Economic team, almost word for word. As to them making sense, the global economy is so complex that if a solution sounds sensible, it probably will only make things worse.

    Linear thinking and a shallow understanding of econnomic priniples and global interconnectedness leaves one confounded as to what is sensible.

    No one, including those selling each new generation of fancy financial instruments, credit-default swaps and such, no sir, no one knew how all these instruments worked and no regulation was an additional attractor. People bought things they knew nothing about and when everything fell apart, they looked to see who hoodwinked them, who could they blame?

    Economically, we've fallen into the proverbial rabbit hole, having tea with the mad hatter and his friends.

    Don't worry so much if you can't understand it, pray that those who do understand parts of it are listening to each other. They could collaborate together and listen to each other but I may be asking too much.

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    Phoenixsst

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    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    A lot of people can speculate on then future just as he did. Looking back as we are now he was a genius. But because he did not do anything back then other then voice an opinion (we al know what opinions are like) he is just an average Joe.
    I predict that the economy will get better in 2009, or 10, or 11, or 12 etc., I am a genius and I should be elevated to the rank of guru extraordinaire.

    I am taking votes

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    roger_jolley@...

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    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    The risk is for governments taking on these very large debts.

    If the system decides one or more government has taken on debts they can't pay, just as banks closed ranks and then began to fail, governments may collapse over a failure of confidence.

    Then the social unrest and food riots could mean hard times for a spell.

    As long as the government shouldering this long term debt program can maintain confidence in its capacity to meaningfully address these serious problems, confidence in markets will eventually return.

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    salmin48@...

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    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    Money is like blood in the human body.If blood being the carrier of essential food & oxygen does not flow smoothly to reach every critical parts of the body or the body has insufficient blood, the critical organ will be undernourised and body will become weak. Likewise the economic body needs sufficient amount of money but having money will not solve the problem if it is not spent or properly invested in productive economic activities. Economic activities that create goods and useful services that improves the quality of life. Unfortunately high percentage of money in circulation are used to finance non-productive economic activities which results not in the creation of productive goods & services but a transfer of wealth from one person to another.The overall size of economic cake remains unchanges. Examples f such actvities are gambling & speculative trading in shares, future & other commodities. Banks are more prepared to provide loan for such activities than to extend financing to companies that are engaged in the production of goods & services that improves the general welafre of man. This s the fundamental problem of the world economy today.

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    mike.khan@...

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    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    I am astonished that Roubini's corrections strategy is more of the past fatal policy mistakes. Let us look at closely what his seven part strategy imputes:

    Temporarily freeze all foreclosures. (Stop the market from operating normally)

    Create massive fiscal stimulus packages of at least $400 billion for public works, infrastructure spending, unemployment benefits, and tax rebates to lower-income households. (Print more green backs and put in the false economy)

    Provide grants to state and local governments in dire need of funding. (Let the state and local govts to join the feds game so that they can also print and pump money to artificially to prop up the failing US economy)

    Coordinate interest-rate cuts globally. (Force all other countries to lend cheap money so that feds can play it Merry Christmas of hand outs and avoid the need for structural corrections of the US economy)

    Temporarily insure all bank deposits
    Allow insolvent banks to shut down and partially nationalize solvent but distressed banks. (Prop up unsustainable banks)

    Open credit lines to solvent financial institutions and companies. (Stop normal market forces to operate)

    Inject money into banks by buying equity. (Stop normal market forces to determine the best course of action)

    Coordinate a global effort to gradually adjust trade imbalances. (Whilst China and previously Japan has flooded the USA with cheap imports through devalued currency, it is time US looked it self in the mirror and asked a serious question what has the nation done in the last 15-20 years to develop its traded goods and service sector?)

    In summary, I have no regard for the Roubini's prophecy of seven point plan. I am not surprised he uses simple economic concepts to support his contentions because if he used any serious structural economic analysis his strategies would be ridiculed by the little boy who said "The King is not wearing any clothes!"

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    Dr.JBo

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    Nouriel Rubini is just another right handed economist.

    As an economist with almost have a century of experience observing the various ups and downs, side steps, twists and turns and random movements of the U.S. economy I have seen hundreds and hundreds of economic forecasts; for next year, for the next five years, for the next five minutes and they all have one thing in common. They are educated guesses with emphasis on the guesswork.

    The inordinately complex mathematical and econometric models relied on by the high priests of the present economics establishment flounder because of their flawed assumptions and are, at best, no improvement over the informed, intuitive predictions of a Joseph Stiglitz or a Paul Krugman.

    When the economics establishment of the 1930s could offer nothing better than their current counterparts, President Roosevelt requested his chief advisors to find him an entirely new economics cast of characters.

    The American Institutionalist school of economics, poor second cousins to the classical school elites who dominated the major universities and seats of economic power, descended on Washington. Economists like Rexford Tugwell, Stuart Chase and A.A. Berle and the economic pragmatists of the Institutional School, soon flooded the country with a new wave of government programs, including social programs, public works construction, social security, regulation, and government spending on an unprecedented scale.

    Many of these programs are similar to those being proposed to President Elect Obama, but now have a much wider backing among the economics profession.

    The important thing is to take bold public action, to prevent the economic system from sliding deeper into a severe recession that will impact the world.

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    john-citizen

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    Re: Nouriel Rubini is just another right handed economist.

    Quote:
    The important thing is to take bold public action, to prevent the economic system from sliding deeper into a severe recession that will impact the world.


    I disagree. The important thing is to fix the problems that caused the situation in the first place.

    caddit is right, America is just getting what it deserves. The real question is if they see where they went wrong or just want to keep the way they have been going - which is what the rest of the world *really* can't afford long-term.

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    udayjadhav

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    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    Surprisingly,There are lot of astrologers are also coming forward and saying the same thing.Looking at the simple method which he has employed and if time is not at all important then there are more precise & unambiguous predictions, Marx , more than decades and may be nomadic man or before thought, "everything is in a cycle".
    I do not know Mr Roubini . But I understood surely , he is not astrologer , communist or nomadic man. So how he can be more simpler, earlier and precise than them.

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    gyimal

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    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    The world saw the recession coming but it was late in preventing it. There is the need for coordinated effort globally. The world took Dr Roubin's prediction for granted.


    Yaw Gyima-Larbi

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    johnsoni

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    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    Not an Austrian... that's for sure. I think that's where Austrians beat him!

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    maccariog

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    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    Hi,

    I?m just mesmerized on how long it took to work it out!

    No disrespect, but I?ve work that out about 4 years ago, and I?m not an economist?

    Very simple, the symptom is called greed or maximising profit?to write it softly.

    The virtual value of the assets, artificially inflated by misleading figures given by leading financial institutions, thinking gambling is fun; and level of credit was increasing exponentially.

    Meanwhile the real monetary value (meaning that how much you could afford to pay for it without re-mortgage the whole town and selling your children), was increasing much, much slower.

    Next time you are in doubt, drop me a line, and I will happily advise you for a quarter of the fee asked by any financial consultant happy

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    bfriedman@...

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    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    Live by the principle of never tapping into your home equity unless you are putting it back into your house to increase its worth. Treat it as you would your 401K or your pension plan
    They also laughed at Peter Schiff who was just as visionary in his predictions. In 2006 he predicted the exact scenario as to when it would happen in the precise oreder it happened. Remember it all started with Credit Default Swaps and the AIG meltdown linked to Lehman and Merrill's exposure to mortgage backed securities

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    jcasalou

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    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    Peter Schiff detailed things a little better
    and was slightly more precise. Good article
    though...

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    asim.mehmood

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    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    I am convinced now that interest based system have to collapse one day... Gaining profits on the basis of buying and selling shares and getting amount without investing in projects...just saving and get profit from it.. this is basic flaw in system..

    Rich getting richer and poor getting poorest.. now this system need to built natural system... Nouriel Roubini remedies might work for sometime..but it wont in longer run...

    Equal Profit and Equal loss sharing...No debt and Interest based loan system... revolving of money by zakat.. one day financial system have to look towards the Quranic System of Islam.. that is for sure..my prediction.... and kindly note this.... !!!

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    jcasalou

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    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    On second thought...this guy is nothing like
    Schiff.

    This guy is terrible.

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    geoffreymh

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    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    Not only is the economy in crisis but economics is in crisis. At the heart of it all is the hope that the global economy is the kind of thing that can be managed top down and from the centre. All the evidence suggests that is not so. Obama?s proposals, for example, address the US, but the US is only a part of the problem.

    An alternative possibility is that the economy acts more like a complex adaptive system (like ant colonies, cities and the human brain). Thus, just as the brain exhibits emotions so stock markets experience ?market sentiment?.
    Complex adaptive systems can be managed, but only bottom up and from the edges. This is the secret of Grameen Bank?s success.

    When the physical assets have lost their value all we have left are human assets; and the key to liberating value from those lies in improving the quality of dialogue at every interface in the system (unhealthy neurons cause brain malfunction). How do you do that? You make it safe to talk (see www.yalaworld.net).

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    larryswinford

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    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    Just another voice in many. A problem starts with the Clinton administration allowing liberal legislators use banking regulations to achieve housing goals. When others, Democrat and Republican, point out potential problems then they are doom and gloom-ers stirring hysteria. Banks point out that the relaxed lending standards are unsustainable, but when relaxed banks and brokerages post superior sales and earnings numbers then there needs to be flexibility to stay competitive.

    When I saw the blog excerpt with the "Bush hypocrites" and that amusingly 'technical' (pardon my sarcasm) description of capitalism, then I realized that Roubini is no economic saint, but has the common feet of clay like you and me.

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    ddesopo

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    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    Roubini isn't some brain child. Folks like John McCain wanted to real in Freddie and Fannie and predicted the housing disaster. Roubini's solution "Create massive fiscal stimulus packages of at least $400 billion for public works, infrastructure spending, unemployment benefits, and tax rebates to lower-income households.." dies not GROW the economy, simply moves OPM (other people's money) around. And this OPM comes from the shrinking middle class.

    The crooks (politicians) who are running this country into the ground went against the will of the people and gave $850 billion
    OUR hard earned tax money to another set of crooks (the banks) who are not releasing/loaning money to the same hard working Americans who bailed them out in the first place.

    Like the Big 3, if we keep the same idiots in place, how can we expect things to change unless you clean house.

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    marcus47

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    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    Who are the people who advocated variable interest rates, and borrowing against mortgages? They are the ones who need attention, as in "you're fired." Personal financial advisors are a dime a dozen who warned people against risky borrowing, but the Congress pushed and banks bought it. Instead of trying to fix stupid, we need to get rid of it. At least Roubini has some sense, in a liberal sort of way. If we must have liberals, let's at least have some with a little sense............

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    bingalis

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    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    Unfortunately he was not able to sound the alarm loud enough. The system and those on the risky-economic joy ride drowned out his analysis and prediction. While he happens to be a noted professor and has access to the media, my friend Donal Adams (Washington, DC) also circulated e-mails five years ago sounding the alarm with the housing market creating a false bubble that was at risk of bursting as it outpacede the rest of the economy. His missives contained quantitative and qualitative analysis to support his prediction...which like Dr. Roubini, have over time proven correct. Unfortunately Donal Adams is not an economist (his Harvard PD is in Theoretical Physics) nor has access to media. However his economic research and analysis has been spot on for the past 10 years. The Obama Team should be looking for citizens such as him for the economic team!!!

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    Jim__Johnson

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    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    great series of posts! I'm somewhat new to BNET and this is the first comment section I've read rather thoroughly.

    My 2 cents--A guy I used to follow when I was actively trading in '98-'03 is Alan Newman at http://www.cross-currents.net/

    He has a bit of free commentary as well as subscription. In '99-ish timeframe he was very concerned about the amount of derivatives in the whole US financial system. His point that I vaguely understand is that all of it is to offset risk to another party but that the total risk in the system remains and grows. ARMs, sub-primes, CDO's, to nothing of all the options schemes and hedges are part of that of course. He was right--just early.

    my studies of bubbles in history suggests it is much easier to know you're in one than when it will end. so those who worry stay in anyway out of greed and indeterminacy. It appears few actually hedged themselves against the catastrophe--or maybe they are keeping quiet.

    One more item--the references to laissez-faire capitalism and capitalists being evil is by my lights crap. the invisible hand may be clumsy, but it a virtuoso compared to the mindless, linear, tautological interventions the US government is about to make. I'm sure there were a few calculated "criminals" but that doesn't explain it. It was mass greed and euphoria from main street to wall street and at all socio-ec levels. Now we all sober up and work our way out, up, and...over the top again. always honor your "stops."

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    SteveLanning

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    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    Hey, Washington and all commonsense-challenged eggheads, attention: It is the PEOPLE (small businesses, people going about their lives) that make the economy function. Not Washington bailouts.
    Remember how the economy turned around when interest rates and capital gains rates were reduced after the Jimmy Carter fiasco and what happened to the economy?
    How to help the 'little guy'--get out the government from their lives and increase the tax breaks, OK? Please?

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    sundan62

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    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    With the abandance of forecasts and forecasters someone is bound to be right. Ten years ago Harry Dent, the known Demographist/Economist have been forecasting a severe economic decline some time around 2008-2009. I haven't seen much praise coming his way.

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    Walley75

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    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini?

    My Grandfather predicted this crisis as well as Roubini, and he did it 35 years ago. It is very sad that Roubini predicted the problems that caused this crisis, but then the fixes that he recommends are completely different. If the patient has a problem then fix the problem, not the neighbor.

    The Feds need to hold off from rescuing everyone and everything. The problems that we face have been caused by greed on the part of all of us. We all want something for nothing, including government services. It is time for the government to get back to their business and allow the people to get back to theirs. In other words we need domestic production by individual and individual companies. We need to pay for what we have now and plan on more cautious purchases in the future. We need to let the people find their own way out of this mess. The economy will take off in no time at all. The "Roubini" plan along with the current political solution will do nothing but prolong the suffering and allow the government to decide when times will be good and when they will be bad. They will also tells us via the media when we should feel good about it and when we shouldn't.

    Get with it people. Stand on your own two feet. Take responsibility for your own mess and we can all fix this problem better than my learned colleagues in the economic industry.

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    rvastar

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    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    Who is Nouriel Roubini?

    Quite obviously...with the author of this article mentioning him in the same breath as Stiglitz and Krugman...he's just another intellectually dishonest Leftist hack for whom ideological "faith" trumps cold, hard reality. I mean,there isn't even any consistency between his condemnation (too much borrowing to fund activities that don't create tangible products) and his prescription (let's borrow even more money to fund activities that don't create tangible products...oh, and while we're at it, let's through in big 'ol heaping helping of socialism)!

    Bottom line: America was borrowing from other countries to fund consumption and housing rather than productive investments that create exportable goods and services.

    Bullsh-t! America IS borrowing from other countries to make up for the shortfalls in the federal govts expenditures...shortfalls that are primarily caused by ever-increasing, MANDATORY SPENDING on unsustainable entitlement programs like Social Security and Medicaid/Medicare.

    What's going on in the American economy should serve as a HUGE wake-up call about the dangers of govt interference in both markets and people's lives...but it won't. Why? Because the gatekeepers of ALL the major information streams (i.e. education, media, entertainment, etc.) are ideological Leftists of one stripe or another, and they simply are incapable of seeing beyond their ideological blinders.

    "(T)hese Bush hypocrites who spewed for years the glory of unfettered wild west laissez faire jungle capitalism allowed the biggest debt bubble ever to fester without any control (and) have caused the biggest financial crisis since the Great Depression."

    This level of intellectual dishonesty would be laughable if it weren't so drop-dead scary! "Scary" in that people are actually going to listen to this sort of nonsense and make policy decisions based upon it!

    Roubini says a big part of the problem is that American consumers used the equity in their homes to go on a decade-long spending spree. Fine. That's true. But the real question to ask is "Why?". Why did they do so? The answer is skyrocketing home values...home values that were artifically inflated due to GOVT INTERFERENCE in the housing market.

    Mr. Smith buys a house for $150K, then is told two years later that it's now worth $250K. "Hey, I can borrow $50K against my home's value and still walk away with another $50K when I sell! And it will probably be even more in another two years!" Now why did his house's value rise like that? Because the market was saturated with buyers, thus leading to the old formula: too many buyers + too few houses = skyrocketing prices.

    But why was the market saturated with buyers? Because banks and other financial institutions were giving out loans to MILLIONS of previously unqualified - or, subprime - borrowers. BUT WHY? Because in 1995, the Clinton Administration made sweeping changes to a little-known law called the Community Reinvestment Act of 1977.

    What is the CRA? The CRA basically states that banks have an obligation to provide access to credit to the lower income people in the communities in which they operate - e.g. providing credit for buying homes. To ensure that a bank is complying, regulators examine the bank's records whenever there's a proposal for opening new branches or for merging with other banks. If the bank is found wanting in it's "outreach" efforts, it's request for a new branch/merger can be denied.

    Clinton's revisions to the CRA - revisions that were pushed for by a Leftist organization called A.C.O.R.N. (sound familiar?) - forced banks to start making these loans, under threat of lawsuit. Also, the 1995 revisions allowed for institutions other than banks (e.g. investment firms) to start making SUBPRIME mortgage loans by forgoing traditional mortgage risk mitigation measures (i.e. savings deposits) and instead, bundling them into securities (i.e. MORTGAGE-BACKED SECURITIES) that could be sold on the open market.

    Any of this sound familiar?

    In short, w/o the Clinton administration's revisions to the CRA, NONE of what has recently occurred in the financial markets would be happening right now! But what's being advocated? MORE GOVT INTERFERENCE! It's madness!

    This economic crisis is a perfect illustration of what's known as The Butterfly Effect, whereby relatively small variations in a system can lead to very large variations over time. But if you think this is bad, just wait another generation or two until the real consequences of Soc. Security and Medicaid/Medicare begin rippling through the system...when 20% of annual GDP is going to fund just these two entitlements...and the average American taxpayer is having 50+% of their income confiscated in the form of taxation.

    PS - For all of you placing your faith in "the Obama team"...a little food for thought. As I stated before, the driving force behind the 1995 revisions to the CRA was the Leftist group of "community organizers" known as A.C.O.R.N. Want to guess who the lawyer was that represented ACORN in bringing about these revisions and having them enacted into law?

    Barack Obama.

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    David Whelbourn

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    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    Well after reading all these I decided to start digging up my garden and planting potatoes and other vegatables, because we are sure in for a really rough ride over the next 2-3 years and growing your own food maybe a family-saving necessity!

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    josterhaus

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    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    Somebody remind me what Mr. Reagan's administration did during Reaganomics when the economy was upside-down? I was too busy being a college co-ed to really remember ... yes, we came out of that cycle, but recall a lot of defense spending (infrastructure). That was about the height of the K-car plague to make autos affordable again, economize on gas consumption. As noted in earlier postings, real estate value inflation is very real - in Vegas, prices are being slashed by 40-50% just to get the sale. It will trickle out to places, like Virginia, where I live. It's only a matter of time where all states see the impact it - some states definitely have it worse than others. Also recall the 80's were the days when the gov't job (and the gov't cheese) were all the rage. Guess being a good civil servant may go back to that meaning.

    Yep - plain and simple, we need new folks minding the store, so to speak.

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    bestkeptsecretintx@...

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    Roubini Did not Warn of ANYTHING

    If he had he would have detailed it in a book. What Alice doesnt seem to get is that even if he had his time stinks...5 years is way off. PLUS He has been predictinbg gloom for 2 decades.


    Its so funny how one media clown gives a person credit for something then others follow in without questioning things. You media idiots are a joke.

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    hardingmj

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    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    Roubini fails to mention that it was Carter's and Clinton's Community Reinvestment Act (CRA) that forced banks to give risky mortgage loans to uncreditworthy homebuyers. Roubini fails to mention that Greenspan consistently kept interest rates at dangerously low levels, and as a result, made excess money and credit available, creating loans that normally would not have been made had there not been that enticement of low interest rates. Roubini failed to mention that the Bush Administration repeatedly went to Congress, specifically to Barney Frank's and Chris Dodd's hearings on housing and finance, but the powerful Frank and Dodd repeatedly and consistently opposed ANY reform of the housing programs, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

    Although Roubini was right in his prediction of a meltdown, he blames the wrong people for the crash.

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    rfrank

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    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    Roubini seems to have taken a page out of Larry Burkett's 1991 best selling book 'The Coming Economic Earthquake.' Due to the timing, Burkett didn't know all the details, but predicted the overall collapse accurately, and tried to warn both the government and consumer. Unfortunately, it all fell on deaf ears. An interesting read.

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    ystoclet

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    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    Despite reading and listening to all that is written and
    said about the current crisis in US and European blogs,
    newspaper, magazines, specialized financial reviews,
    news reports and the likes, I am astonished to see that
    a key and critical aspect is systematically missing and
    overlooked.
    NO EXPERT ever discusses within the set of
    recommendations they suggest, no matter whether it is
    Roubini's 7 recommendations to stop credit crisis, or
    any other recognized expert the need to regain and/or
    rebuild CONSUMER CONFIDENCE.
    Yet ALL are readily willing to provide grants, inject
    money into banks, imagine and promote all sort of
    rescue plans to the automotive industry, financial
    industry, etc...
    The question which NONE (least of all those
    government who conceive these plans) seem to
    address or openly discuss is who do we trust these
    economic rescue packages to? Why should I be willing
    to let our government(s) entrust my hard earned taxed
    income to the same "bunch" who have been the main
    architects of the actual disaster, to those same money
    hungry pseudo managers who have been blindly driven
    by their short term vision and the prospect of fast and
    fat bonuses, clearly outrageous with hindsight!!

    What about NO RESCUE MONEY IF NO MANAGEMENT
    CHANGE!
    What about PERSONAL AND CRIMINAL LIABILITY to ALL
    those who got there heads into business they could
    not understand, let alone manage!!

    Talking about losing an opportunity to send a message
    of confidence to the market, a case in point... what
    more should have Madoff done (besides the US$50
    Billion fraud he himself admitted and confessed to) to
    be found "jailable" IMMEDIATELY????

    I rest my case...

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    Bouchart

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    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini?

    The problem with economy is that there was too much money.

    The solution to this problem will not be additional money.

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    john-citizen

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    What we can do.

    Here is my seven point plan:

    1) A modest economic stimulus package focused on families with children, seniors, etc funded by what ever we can take from the hide of forcing Wal*Mart and other Chinese-product dumpers into receivership, the Bush family into paying for extreme damage done to America, crooked banks and greedy CEOs.

    2) Americans buy American. This was Ghandi's solution to the Indian textile crisis. It worked then and can work again. This will also encourage domestic productivity. "Yes we can."

    3) Cut all Chinese imports. All. The Chinese mofia party has had more than enough encouragement from foriegn cash to correct their human rights issues which they obviously have no intention of ever doing.

    4) Now that we see the results of what happens when you pit average American intelligence against greedy loan agencies and clever marketing, there needs to be a measure of government regulation and restraint on home equity.

    5) USA leaves international conflicts that it can no longer afford to sustain.

    6) USA pays off existing debt instead of creating more, offering incentives to national banks doing the same.

    7) Massive public awareness campaign helping everyone understand why the above sacrifices are needed.

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    James Dahlfred

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    A Bear Among Bulls

    Regarding those who cry "fire!" before a match has
    even been lit, it is wise to do everything in your power
    to make liars of them, but don't dismiss them as
    pessimistic fools.

    I'm not a home owner, nor an investor in anything, and
    even I remember smelling smoke 3 years ago. It strikes
    me as odd to have a such a large industry of mortgage
    brokers, banks, and expert investors making money by
    shuffling money from one account to another, instead
    of investing is tangible production.

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    bluvision

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    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    I find it funny that only a professor called this. I called the Crash down to a 3month count of when it happened. I saved my friends tons of cash and I am by far not into any securities trading or work for any bigwig companies. Data, volume and obvious warnings should have given anyone the knowledge to see this.

    It's a joke one fool from a 'prestigious' school is dubbed the genius to find the flaws. Is everyone so blind that they don't see this is more propaganda to pump a top-notch school up?

    I will stop there, but it is sad to see an article only propagating one individual who probably doesn't even deserve this acknowledgment, but who am I to judge... I only predicted it and had less than a three-month time frame. I also thought the government should raise the FDIC by a $100,000 and they raised it by $150,000, but I am no one.

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    Cally321

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    What could be done to improve things?

    What he foresaw was simple use of common sense.

    About 20% of our country acquires college degrees, which means 80% have a hands-on, kinesthetic intelligence, making them more suited for blue-collar work. In my parents? day, factories provided excellent blue-collar employment for those more suited to work with their hands. However, due to the increasing greed and power of unions, we chased factories right out of our country. So much was demanded that it became cheaper to ship the raw materials to Mexico, have the products assembled there and shipped back. In addition, the ability to purchase cheap goods from countries like China drove the ?Ma and Pa shops? into extinction. We went from an industrialized nation to a service industry. Rather than our blue-collar working in factories creating goods, they work part-time, for minimum wage and no benefits, in the modern day super store. Nothing is created anymore.

    To further ensure our inevitable downfall, we live off credit, not just our government, but individuals as well. Everyone is in debt. It?s considered normal. Everyone lives on credit. How could we logically expect to continue to sustain our standard of living in this country when nothing is created and we simply keep burying ourselves into debts that we can never possibly repay?

    What we need to is begin to create again. The government needs to limit the power of the unions by putting a cap on what they can demand and offer businesses tax breaks and incentives to try to lure them back. At the same time, increase the taxes for businesses that assemble products in other countries. Most importantly, we need to put our think tanks to work trying to discover a way for America to lead the way in creating something new. Perhaps kill two birds with one stone and develop a way to create products that our environment-friendly. New products that do a lot less damage could replace cars, home heating, air conditioning, ect. You cannot tell me with some of the extraordinary genius that does exist in this nation, that we cannot develop new products to lead the way for the rest of the world to follow while at the same time, creating a new industry for the improvement of our own economy.

    However we do it, we have to do something fast because if we do not change now, the standard of living we that we currently are so comfortable in will be no more.

    I'd be interested in hearing how you think things could be improved.

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    clarkm

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    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    I'm going to make a prediction; the economy will improve. Then there will be correction, possibly a downturn. Then it will improve again.

    In 20 years someone will recognize my genius. I should write a book.

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    Karl Kleinbach

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    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    Book recommendation, Financial Reckoning Day: Surviving the Soft Depression of the 21st Century by William Bonner (Author), Addison Wiggin (Author) published 2003.

    Authors demonstrate a much better understanding of the forces at work, certainly better than our flamboyant author being discussed.
    http://www.amazon.com/Financial-Reckoning-Day-Surviving-Depression/dp/0471449733

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    clarkm

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    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    john-citizen; please define "buy American"??? Can you still do that? How may products on our shelves are truly American? It's a global economy today, there's no way to turn back that clock. Even the automotive industry no longer meaures in US content but rather in North American content.

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    aloah1

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    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    "I find it funny that only a professor called this." False. Peter Shiff predicted it as well, but he has dramatically different solutions.

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    www.thetorontorealestate.com

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    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    What an eye opener ,is he the Nostradamus of 21st century ,seems true ,as now when everything has happened before our eyes.
    www.thetorontorealestate.com

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    sneezey

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    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    I'm not an economist but you don't need to be one to know that the so-called 'service' industry is not actually what has fuelled our wealth, it is the reliance on manufacturing that the so-called 'service' industries depend. Far from being dead, manufacturing or 'productive' economic activity, is the bedrock of our economies. Services are not the new economy, never will be - we need to make things before we 'service' - we can order things over the phone, before we can eat in restauarant we need to make the seat and the table and the food, before we 'consume' and purchase' and 'leisure' , we need to make the things that give us these pleasures. Quality of life and sustaining it is not a short-lived pleasure like 'consumption': you get the buzz but it don't last long (think retail therapy), just as eating a choccie bar gives you that sugar rush but then you feel deflated again, they tell you to eat a banana or slow-release wheat and oats snack - it lasts longer, you might not like the taste as much as that choccie bar, but you fel fuller and more energetic. Quality of life and sustaining it will NEVER be married to unaffordable consumption whether that's using and buying up others money to get rich, releasing equity in your house to buy that car etc.

    Read the French contemporary sociologist Castell's and his 'Information Society' for more.

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    wgaboy

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    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    Someone I wish I could hire.

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    stuart.fawcett@...

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    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    Yes he was one of the closer predictors of the crash, and yes timing was out. But perhaps he has spent 8 years looking at the levers that trigered this decline so should be one of the group that can advise on what levers to use to recover the situation - he may be completly wrong on these but is certainly worth listening too.

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    napata

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    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    Rain:
    The comment taht suggested that predicting crisis is like predicting rain is completely wrong .. we know from all past experience that over the next month there will be rain ... teh only question is when? .. We do not know that over the next couple of years there will be financial catastrophe.
    Timing is the difference between an academic, (Roubini) and a billionaire (Paulson and pals also bet against the mortgage/credit crisis and won billions).

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    wgaboy

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    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    a man or woman is usually rejected as prophet in their own land.

    people need to quit fingering Bill Clinton for everything bad the last 8 years.
    and look at the machinations of the Bush league administration.
    hmm 8 years of mostly plenty followed by 8 years of excesses.
    We ought to keep Gitmo open
    Every big cheat like Madoff ought to be sent there.
    And every minor cheat who already has his golden parachute ought to forbidden from EVER working in securities or other financila industry.

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    john-citizen

    01/26/09 | Report as spam

    Define American?

    clarkm: "please define "buy American"??? Can you still do that?"

    Huh? But the Germans still know what ?buy German? means. The French still buy French. If America lost the answer to this they already lost a lot more. And for what? Cheap disposable shoes and cameras made in China and sold at Wal*Mart?

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    rdefazio

    01/27/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    Gee, I admire Mr. Roubini for having the courage of his convictions, but I am more concerned about where we are headed now, and so should most everyone else. Now that we are partially nationalizing important and significant portions of the private sector through the largesse of our Congress and president(s), there is more bad news coming; it's just that it won't be available for viewing for a couple of years.


    Everyone will admit that we didn't have the money to sustain our buy-buy-buy mentality of only a few months ago. As mentioned, we were borrowing from China to buy from China, so in the absence of the continued frenetic pace of buying and the concomitant reduction in borrowing, why would anyone sanely believe that the bailouts that we speak of as being part of the solution are coming from anything other than a printing press? It is not like we are selling our gold reserves to Martians and releasing new, previously undiscovered wealth for general consumption. The payments are electronic book transfers created from thin air. At some point the chickens will come home to roost, and the only way the treasury will be able to deal with it is to print more money to match the number of dollars that end up in the hands of those who don't or won't keep their cash permanently in a bank account.

    The massive printing job will achieve exactly what was achieved after the Great Depression...more money in everyone's hand and an upward spiral in the cost of goods fueled by savings and pent up demand. Armed with the new blizzard of dollars that will be available, expect much higher prices for even the smallest items.

    I sincerely hope that the Obama administration can manage to not only hold the tiger by the tail but also to tame it. It's just that I don't think it will. Congress, like a slow witted child that specializes in tantrums and public displays of embarrassing behavior, can be expected to talk a good game and to be completely ignorant of the consequences of its own actions.

    America needs to return to some common sense principles. Wealth is not derived from selling insurance to each other, nor is it enlarged by making daily pilgrimages to the local WalMart temple. Wealth arises from maximizing earnings, living a life of thrift, and saving and investing one's wealth in sound business ventures that can actually produce a profit.

    Investing in one's own house doesn't fit that pattern because one is gambling that another's vision of loveliness will be the same as his own when it comes to his house at the moment the For Sale sign is driven into the front lawn, and frankly if most houses are like the ones on my street, they look nice, but they still burn when ignited, they attract termites, their roofs look awful after 15 years, and paint blisters off after 10 years.

    Instead of carping about whether Mr. Roubini should be allowed his Andy Warhol 15 minutes of fame, why don't we all spend a little more effort on anticipating what's around the bend?

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    john-citizen

    01/28/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    Quote rdefazio:
    "America needs to return to some common sense principles. Wealth is not derived from selling insurance to each other, nor is it enlarged by making daily pilgrimages to the local WalMart temple. Wealth arises from maximizing earnings, living a life of thrift, and saving and investing one's wealth in sound business ventures that can actually produce a profit."


    Correct. Good post, actually. My greatest fear is this generation of America has already become too fat and superficial to even understand what you are talking about.

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    108 First

    01/29/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    I've followed Roubini's free blog for the past three years (www.rgemonitor.com). For me it's like sitting in the back of the room and auditing for free a Stanford grad school advanced MBA class..."London Banker"..."PeteCA"..."Miss America"..are blog ID's for commentators with lucid comments. I've learned so much by osmosis from these clear financial thinkers. I'm entirely grateful to the professor for making his blog free of charge. And to gloat just a bit I made a 25% profit on my 08 investments by following the good professor advice.
    It's over now though...the supply chain is broken...you only "think" you see a functioning economy of a storeful of goods when you go to the mall...you don't realize all that "stuff" was ordered about 9 months ago and shipped 4-6 months ago. I'm taking bets which American cities light up first this Summer- Oakland, Detroit and Newark are on my hunches on the "first to burn" list. I hate to sound so smug and elite but Hell it's so obvious we've all been seduced and have thought "I don't really care if I still get my slice of the pie". Well the pie is just a really huge **** sandwich and we are all suckers to but into "The world's gone to hell but me and my family are okay".
    If you want unvarnished reality you might visit www.market-forum.denninger.net
    Karl Denninger is my hero! And after three-plus years he's still clear as a bell and outraged by the abuse, greed and negligence allowed to pass as status quo.
    Okay, I'm done with my rant.
    If you can't have a great day, then have a good one.

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    iqbalmuar

    01/31/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    Unless fundamental changes that need to be taken are identified and acted upon, the dollar may become another Zimbabwe currency!(only the timing is not known yet!)

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    amitsdave@...

    01/31/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    Whatever happened was forcasted, all said nothing done. Thanks to Nouriel who disclosed it to masses and did not think of profiteering from it. Let's hope new US government does more than fighting for oil and borrowing money.

    Really the governments should have more stringent regulations and be more vigilant.

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    jagdissa

    02/04/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    It is not a question of economics and who is right and wrong. Has anyone thought about the millions of people who are in utter need of food and the basics of life? There are some in the U.S for sure, but most are to be found in those desolate places and war stricken countries . Instead of giving money to a system that is morally and financially bankrupt, give it to people in need. If it is not generosity which motivates us, at least out of self interest we can raise their standard of living and they will buy our goods in return. It is time us in the West scale back our standard of living and adjust to a new economic environment.

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    terridesigns@...

    02/05/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    American has built its economy upon a house of cards all based on consumerism. We all work everyday to pay for the things that we need and just want giving into real and fantasy desires because we think we deserve a certain level of wealth in society. For the average American, how much of their needs can be produced without consumerism to supply it? Very little if anything at all, because we have changed everything about our lifestyle in order to buy what we need and desire as ?the American way?. We no longer raise our own food, build our own homes, and our transportation is controlled by big corporations in cahoots with foreign countries. The biggest question remains, where will this lead us to? This is a wakeup call to realize we need to go back to our roots where we need to produce as much as we can for ourselves limiting our consumerism to ?tangible? products. I have retirement plans where I have no choice but to put them in mutual funds (stocks, bonds, money markets) and this is down right gambling with hard-earned money and I really don?t think there will be much in the kitty by the time I retire, if I ever can. We need to consider the monopolies we have created in this country by and for the big corporations who pay their executives millions of dollars per year, who also hold the majority of the wealth in this country, to get a real job and stop running by and for greed. We need to consider the trajectory we are sending our world into. It didn?t take a genius to predict this economic crash, but it will take all the genius?s in the world to sort it out.

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    femray

    05/17/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    I only heard about this geezer in this recent few months and to be honest I dont know much about him and his work. If he did predict this economic crisis as aclaimmed then bravo to him.

    I can only say this, what has happened to the global economy recently is not rocket science at all, an average joe or julie with proper observation of what was happen around them a few years back would have known the roaring economic momentum around the world in some major countries was certainly going to grind to a halt some day.

    My summary is that capitalism is a corrupt, immoral and evil system and need to be overhauled completely or else we are heading for an even bigger economics doomsday in the near future.

    End Result : Anarchy and Total revolutionary uprising !

    Its as simple as that , the have nots vs the haves war.

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    leonardlanni

    08/18/09 | Report as spam

    RE: Who Is Nouriel Roubini??

    It sounds like the Obama administration is taking heed to Mr. Roubini's solution to our current financial problem. Roubini must get involved with the health care crisis, if he has not already done so. Monitoring costs through hospital/doctor abuses is a bigger problem then meets the eye. I hear stories every day of missed diagnosis of patients, just to run up the bill and suck the insurance companies and medicare dry. Obama figures that if he can control the industry and all the money involved, he can dictate to the industry in a socialistic manner; but America is not ready for that milarky. Get after the crooks and culperts. That is where to use his phony "czar system" Not to smother and knock out his opposition.Take their licenses away. Close them down like you are doing to the banks and reward the good guys for their honesty and accuracy. Everyone will ultimately benefit and the world will again look up to us as reformists and not just as capitalistic; hungry for the dollar without regards for the whole of the people.

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