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A CEO’s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

Tags: Facebook, Employee, Social Media, Photograph, Chip, Burning Man, Social Media Policy, Chip Conley, Joie de Vivre, Social Networking Policy, Twitter, Chip Conley, as told to Paul Sloan

When BNET heard that hotelier Chip Conley’s Facebook photos caused a mild uproar among his employees, we invited the entrepreneur to share his story. After all, usually it’s the boss that’s concerned about his staff’s social media habits, not the other way around.

I’m grappling with a question of our times: When does something splashed on Facebook or broadcast via Twitter become bad for my company? The problem is not with my staff but with me. Specifically, photos that I posted on my Facebook page in September after returning from Burning Man, the weeklong anything-goes festival. Yes, I know it isn’t the typical CEO getaway. That’s part of the problem.

First, a little bit about me. I run Joie de Vivre, a company that operates a collection of boutique hotels in California. I founded the business 22 years ago, when I was 26 and a freshly minted MBA from Stanford. The first property I bought was a pay-by-the hour motel in a seedy part of San Francisco. People told me I was crazy to buy it, but I transformed it into a world-renowned rock ’n‘ roll hotel. Today, Joie de Vivre is a $230 million company with more than 3,000 employees and 38 properties. From the luxury spa resort in Big Sur to the urban chic hotel in San Francisco and a surfer-inspired hotel in Huntington Beach, our mission statement is simple: to celebrate the joy of life.

And that’s precisely what I was doing at Burning Man, which, incidentally, I have attended twice before in the past decade, before this social media problem existed. I went with a close friend. She took a ton of pictures, and when I got home to San Francisco, I posted six of them, two of which show me shirtless. In one I’m wearing a tutu; in the other a sarong.

Only recently has my personal Facebook page become very personal. My PR agency set it up along with a fan page in February, rightly arguing that it was good for promoting the company and my latest book, Peak: How Great Companies Get Their Mojo from Maslow. I accepted pretty much anyone who “friended” me, including plenty of employees, and gradually I began posting the usual Facebook fodder — links to articles, quick takes on books, emotional missives. My profile picture — a business-casual blazer-and-collared-shirt look — was uploaded by my PR team as well. I swapped it out in favor of a shirtless shot of me in a parking lot at Burning Man.


Chip Conley Facebook Profile Photos
The two faces of Chip Conley on Facebook.

I’m just not a blazer kind of guy. I consider myself a rebel. My first book —The Rebel Rules: Daring to Be Yourself in Business — preaches the value of authenticity in business, of being true to yourself. So a few pictures on my Facebook page that show me having a good time? I honestly didn’t give it a second thought.

I had, however, given thought as to how others at my company use social media, and this is where the whole thing gets a little messy. In fact, the issue of my pictures came up as we were creating a social media policy and seeking input from our cultural ambassadors. Our ambassadors are employees who are elected by their peers to represent each hotel; they work on such efforts as local philanthropy, employee recognition programs, and, lately, social media policies. It’s a role I instituted about 12 years ago after reading about how Southwest Airlines had cultural ambassadors who served as representatives between field offices and headquarters. Joie de Vivre was growing fast, and I was concerned about keeping our culture intact.

I learned from my head of HR that four of our cultural ambassadors had fielded complaints from young staff members who, odd as it sounded to me, looked up to me, almost like a father figure. And, well, they didn’t like seeing their father in a tutu. I also learned that staffers were concerned about some of my Twitter musings, in which I expressed anguish over the demise of an eight-year relationship. Somehow, all this seemed inappropriate for a CEO with thousands of employees.

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The feedback I got was that it looked like I was setting a double standard by creating a policy for everyone at the company except me. My HR chief suggested that I consider taking down the two pictures where I’m shirtless. My reaction was swift: “Screw that,” I said. “People who don’t like it can go work at Marriott.”

And yet, I’ve begun to see her point. I don’t want to create tension at the company or be viewed as a hypocrite. In fact, she and my head of public relations prevailed on me to keep the most controversial shots out of this article. The rebel in me balked. I honestly don’t care who sees my photos from Burning Man. But I reconsidered. I decided I don’t want an important discussion about social media and business to be sidelined by a hot-or-not type photo gallery of me.

Even so, I still plan to stick to my guns, practice what I preach about authenticity, and keep the photos on my Facebook page. Some of my people said my pictures are sexually suggestive, but I don’t see it. No one complained when I dressed in drag at a holiday party seven years ago, although pictures never made their way to the Web. And I doubt anyone would be complaining if my pictures were from a beach vacation.

Besides, the company’s social media policy is mainly designed to protect the privacy of our guests. If Jimmy Carter or Megan Fox stays at one of our hotels, I want to make sure the staff knows not to post photos on Facebook or blab about it on Twitter. The policy applies to the employees and their own behavior, but that’s less of an issue, so long as they’re not damaging the image of the company in public.

And this is where I can get into trouble. What, exactly, does it take to damage the image of the company? Sometimes it’s straightforward — employees can’t, for example, write about trade secrets — but other times, it’s not. What if pictures emerge of a desk host drinking from a beer bong at a football game, or decked out in an S&M getup at an underground club? I’d have no problem with that, although I know plenty of CEOs who would. To me, that’s an employee’s private life. Take it a step farther — the employee is shown stealing municipal signs, for instance — and I would have a problem with it. Even worse would be if that employee is wearing a Joie de Vivre shirt. In other words, it’s a case-by-case basis.

So as for a double standard, I don’t buy it. I do think it’s important that companies have a social media policy, and I don’t think I violated the one my company just rolled out. Should a CEO be held to a different standard? Let me know what you think is right.

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    cwlutz@...

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Chip-
    From one Chip to another, authenticity is where it's at. If I were working for you, it would tell me that you are what (and who) you say you are. After leading people for 25 years in the Navy, that's what people respected most - I was what I appeared to be and they knew what they could expect. Keep being you and showing others it's okay to let go and have some fun!
    -Chip Lutz
    Covenant Leadership
    www.covenantleadership.com

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    selfishy_me@...

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    You're a CEO representing a hotel chain with millions in annual revenue. You have years of experience in corporate politics. What do you think is appropriate or not for your investors and customers? But thank goodness I see most CEO's as corporate cannon fodder and transparent pep-talk experts. *cough*

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    Joyous_LadyJ

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    I think it depends on the company.

    Your success is because you have been true to yourself; an example that many could benefit from following. You did not achieve success from listening to others' perceptions of what is right for you or your company.

    Don't stop trusting your gut now. Your gut is still accurate.

    Personally, if some of the people think you musing about an ended 8 year relationship is an issue they believe you are somehow not human or perfect. It is their perception of you and not your actions that could use an adjustment.

    I did not read any of your musings. If it sounded as if you were coming unhinged or were so focused on the loss of the relationship that your hand on the helm might be shaky that is one thing. If you are merely expressing human emotions I think that is great. To me, a highly successful individual displaying human traits helps me see that I, too, could achieve such success.

    As far as my opinion on employee posts, I think each individual has a choice - do you identify your employer on accounts such as facebook or not? If you do then you have a different standard to uphold than someone who does not identify their employer (but who would still have concerns about a potential employer judging them based on what is on their page).

    Additionally, if you were the CEO of a stoggy old company, perhaps one that handles "old money" the answer to your questions would be different as your clients would have a different expectation. I think a Maverick who stops being who/what he is has taken the first step towards failure.

    Have fun. Enjoy life.

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    roberta.fox@...

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    As President and Senior Partner of a small Canadian management/technology consulting firm, I feel Chip's pain.

    Our clients tell us they choose us partly for our creativity and out of the box thinking in helping them develop long-term technology strategies and vendor selections that are a cultural fit. To do this, we are using our non-work skills, like me being a Second City Improv graduate, or former musician, and not just my strateic thinking, engineering and consulting capabilities.

    Many businesses today have the product as the people, not just rooms, cars, or other 'hard' products. This being the case, it is getting harder to draw the line between work and play, and what right we as employers have to tell our folks what to do or say outside of work hours.

    The Net is...we as leaders HAVE to ensure that our companies (disregarding size) have defined guidelines and policies in the various social media so that our employees, customers, sharedholders etc. understand. It is expensive and takes a long time to build a well respected brand, and is too fast to destroy if not managed properly.

    Re: your dual identity pictures Chip....As a conservative Canadian female, I don't consider them obscene, and say keep them! Just add a caption about 'the human side of our CEO'!

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    juubie

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    I applaud you for your stance! I must add that as an employee I would hope that my boss would respect my private life as much as you do. I do agree that it is on a case by case basis, but you're right, a vacation picture in which you are doing nothing wrong or immoral, and in fact are only enjoying your time off should not be persecuted! Keep it up, Chip, and let me know if you ever need a Business Development Director, I would certainly love to work in that corporate culture!

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    restellstrategic

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    This is a difficult situation. I like that you are open about your
    life and that you respect your people enough to allow them to
    be themselves in public without being overly protective of your
    company brand. The problem arises when your idea of personal
    freedoms conflicts with one of your employees. One man's
    Burning Man is another's **** Fight! At this point almost
    anything you disapprove of will be tossed back at you with that
    pic in a tutu. Discretion as they say...

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    alanbcameron

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    Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook

    Hello Chip,
    The correct question should be "Should I PUT My Burning Man Pics ON Facebook?"
    Recall that facebook is on the Internet and the second you write your pics and thoughts to that site, they become property of every stranger and potential client. You must know being a CEO that putting this stuff on the Internet can be off-putting to some and possibly cost you business. To others it is somehow gratifying to have your company. To ask the question about taking pictures off facebook is like wondering if you can erase tire tracks by backing up.
    Too late.
    This is a good lesson in judgment.

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    reedj

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    My suggestion: make your policy very specific. That is, state explicitly, for example, that if an employee posts a photo of themselves (or someone else) performing an illegal activity (e.g., stealing a municipal sign), they are in violation of the policy...Likewise, if the employee posts something malicious in nature that does harm to another (see the gov't guidelines on harassment for this one), then they are in violation. Be sure to outline specifically what can happen if the employee violates the policy (e.g., termination).
    However, beyond that, there's this wonderful thing called the 1st Amendment that grants all of us freedom of speech in this country. I'd suggest that your shirtless photo falls in the boundaries of that amendment. Wouldn't it be nice if more CEOs in this country had the guts to do the same?

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    vijaymehrotra

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Dude-keep the pictures up. Communicate with staff and customers. Do what you've always done: take things forward with a fresh view, a strong commitment to change.

    And let me know if/when you'd like to come speak to my Executive MBA students here at the University of San Francisco about JDV, BM, or anything else.

    I'll look for you on the playa.

    Vijay
    Vijay Mehrotra [vmehrotra@usfca.edu]
    Associate Professor, Department of Finance and Quantitative Analytics
    School of Business and Professional Studies
    University of San Francisco

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    hawsome

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    I feel that as long as you're not breaking the law...you're good!

    Then concerning revealing celebrities whereabouts at your hotel, it's straightforward to not disclose any information on them while on the job (I mean anyone who isn't working could witness the celebrity there anyways and broadcast it to the world, aren't they in the public?).

    Drinking at the club and having a good time at Burning Man is your own business. It's not breaking the law, you're having fun "to celebrate the joy of life". I don't see a problem.

    -Chris Ha
    www.contourhooligans.com

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    gthomas@...

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Being in the recruitment business for arts & culture organizations, posting any pictures on social media sites has become problematic -- employers can discriminate based on gender, age, race, etc. Our feeling about CEO's posting personal pix is negative -- it might impact how current employees perceive the leader and discourage great talent from becoming part of your organization. We tell all our candidates to dress appropriately and be professional All best, Geri Thomas, President, Thomas & Associates, Inc., New York and Chicago, www.artstaffing.com

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    benram

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Chip,

    This post struck a note for me. We are increasingly living in a world where the boundaries between home and business are blurring. I believe we need to update our customs accordingly.

    In the past what was done with home, family and friends could be completely separate from work but now work constantly comes home and invades 'home' time and personal interests? impact business since the web sites & communication are no longer easily separated.

    I believe you hit the right notes - identify what are the 'standards of the business' and ask/require people when they are at business or doing things related or that can be identified back to the business, they need to follow these standards. Anything outside of this should be considered personal and not the purview of the business.

    Unfortunately, people don't really compartmentalize when they think about each other & the businesses they deal with. Thus, if a leader in a business is doing something that someone (anyone) considers personally unacceptable then they will associate that action with the business even if the action would be ok by ?general standards (whatever that means)?. So there is no good answer except people need to grow up & realize that our business leaders are also human and have home lives and that what they do on their personal time doesn?t reflect on their business.

    In this specific instance however, with the facebook account, since this was setup by your business PR and was designed to give the ?front? to the business that this account should be treated as if it was a business communication and would lean towards a conservative approach. If this was truly a personal facebook account that you intended to be shared with friends & family to share your personal life then I?d say ? run free in the tutu ?

    Hope the perspective is helpful.
    Ben

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    Dinajambi

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Hi
    from Saudi girl ( maybe not important ), hold the stick from the
    middle. Have fun in a way that keeps you fresh and respectable
    as any human been. with respect Dina

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    tomrogers6

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Sorry Mr. Rebel you are now "the man" and I without insult, you are older than you think relative to your employees. (Probably most of your employees are younger than your children). While you are still young and vital your young employees see you in a different light than your age peers.

    I suggest you de-link your work facebook from your personal facebook.

    I may not be rich and famous, but I do have a small public reputation, and my personal Facebook is a way different place (for real friends) from my LinkedIn site and my blog which are for my students and colleagues.

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    tonya628

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    I did not read any of your musings. I feel that you made yourself my human the kind of guy who does know how to enjoy life. Something are personal and something are business in other words when you are at work you are keeping things business but when you are away sure you have a personal life and you deserve to have fun. I don't find your facebook picture without your shirt to offensive in,fact, I think that it's tasteful now those finding anything wrong with it they have their minds drifting somewhere else. I mean if you were coming out the pool and you wrapped a towel around you it would still be the same picture so what is the big deal.
    You are talking about your personal life we talk about people in the public all the time the world is always intersted in the rich and famous life you just happen to tell yours on your own rahter than rumors bing started. Adn if I were an employee I wouldn't worry about how you choose to talk about your personal and human life as long as business was business and you handled it as such. People find the crazies things to get upset about you be you and keep doing you.

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    tris14

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    In this world of stuffed shirts and CEO's that really do not care about their employees, it is good to see that someone has a sense of humor and can live life to the fullest. Chip, I applaud you for being light hearted but still run a profitable business. I say leave them on and of the employees that have complained, you can always remove them from your 'friend' list. Good Luck!

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    Ahma Daeus

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Chip,

    Old friend, I need a job.....(any kind of employment)
    ...Remember My Boyfriend's Closet?
    contact me at wethomasus@yahoo.com
    and, as far as your photos go..well, Bosses are people too (and I know for a fact, you are one of the best any employee could hope) This silly discussion is proof! Of course you should have your photos up on Facebook!
    My Best
    William Thomas

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    scrubbrush

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    I think this is an excellent example of "The times are a changing." Aside from focus on the bottom line companies have stopped re-investing into their greatest assets...their employees. And this re-investment can be simply by the example set forth by you...the CEO. I am in complete agreement that the pictures represent that you do have a human side and that you are authentic. However, perception is usually a far disconnect of reality. Your authenticity could be viewed as arrogance or a lack for professional behavior. But in the grand scheme of things...does your job title define you? If not than I would continue to operate in the way that has been successful for you....it's proven.

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    Swt_Carrie32

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    As an employee whose employer is now wanting access to Facebook pages (to be sure we don't post things about them in a negative way), I can understand your concern. Why is my company concerned with employee's personal lives?

    However, I do know that we represent (whether we want to or not) the things we are affiliated with: our company, our family, our friends, etc. People make judgements (true or false) on what they see. Could your photos cost you business? I would hope not (since it would mean someone went searching for you and looked at your page).

    As I have always thought - - - keep your private life private and out of your public life. Watch who your Facebook friends are. Keep it locked up!

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    TimSpence

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Chip,
    I applaud your decision to be authentic. Your place in life allows you to fight a battle that too many burners see as too costly for them. One possible future for capitalism is dependent on authentic communication between people who can fully express who they are. Thank you for steering in that direction!

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    segamtl@...

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Does it help or hurt the business as a whole? It depends - If it adds to the business' image etc.. great! Look at Richard Branson - he was, and is the Virgin group's identity.

    I think it is not necessarily hypocritical to post your life up as corporate material but I think it is important to realize that it is corporate material. I think that if it is simply a casual "what the hell" posting then you should be more aware. However, if it is part of what you passionately believe in and have reciprocally weaved that into your company then that is cool. The difference is that you cannot rely on the judgment of 2,000 staff members to be high minded about their postings - This is particularly the charm of the charismatic founder. Besides it clearly makes no sense to have the Marriott group CEO posting photos with him in a sarong. It just doesn't make sense with what they are trying to put out there...:)

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    Romano4444

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    A sales company, Kabum in SP Brasil, have a netbook that don't belong to them. This product went, in warrant period, for fixing. If the social net, like Twitter, didn't exists how to spread this bad behaviour?

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    wordsmith96

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    To post or not to post...that is the question. Personally, I see nothing inherently wrong in posting personal pictures on a social networking site such as Facebook, however, you have to be prepared to accept the public's viewing of them and not care about their opinion one way or the other. John Q. Public runs the gamut from other mavericks like yourself to stodgy conservative types who would think the photos are inappropriate for someone of your stature to make public. I think the most important concept here is that once you are in the public eye like a politician, a celebrity or a CEO of a respected company, the expectations change. The public knows you're human but you are held to a higher standard. It's not completely fair but then that is the price you pay for being high profile.

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    mlpearson

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    I agree totally with Mr. Conley, issues have to be evaluated on a case by case basis. In this instance, I see a picture of a man enjoying himself. No nudity, alcohol, drugs, or obscene gestures, and it does not take away from the man he is for the company. Actually, it makes him more relatable, as a CEO with hobbies and interest outside the company that cultivate an attitude and perpective that benefit the company. Rock on!!!

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    john3347@...

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    You should not be on Facebook in the first place. That question should never come up!

    Some lighthearted frivolities exhibited by upper management is a good thing. Facebook is not the place.

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    osueng02

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    First off, I loved Peak and it has inspired me to discuss engagement with many of the organizations that I am involved, so you can likely say that I have some Chip Conley bias in my response.

    I have to disagree with the stuffed shirts that say people don?t respect a CEO that posts his pictures from burning man. I think it is the ambassadors and other executives that might be uncomfortable with the pictures. If they are, then they should go work for Marriott like you said.

    I think that this will not ?scare off? the talent. Just the opposite, I think that it will attract talent that wants to promote a high quality brand but lets them explore their own personalities.

    Chris Elliott
    asadudethinketh.com

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    mainbrace

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Mmmmm...depends on your company brand and culture doesn't it?
    CEOs are like parents. If you're the open minded matey type with a company culture that is personal, forgiving and creative then go with the pics.
    If you're a more traditional leader with a disciplined and political workforce, play it a lot safer.
    You know the answer to your question, you knew it when you posted the pics and hopefully you will always make intuitive decisions in your business. Backing them up with a blog like this proves that point happy

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    jad67

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    It's blindingly obvious, but rarely understood by people who reserve the right to be visibly and authentically themselves, i.e., that others equally reserve the right to hold their own opinion of such authenticity.
    More advanced forms of such out-of-hours authenticity could be, for example, "at weekends my name is Suzy..."

    P.S. How does someone come to be called "Chip"? Is it a short form of another name, or a nickname?

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    aMUSEher

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Deconstruct your wall and close your FB account, dude, especially now that the world knows your financial worth. You want to share photos with friends and family, send them via e-mail. A man (not a college kid, even if you did graduate Stanford) in your position needs to think 'risk minimization'. BTW, you look pretty cute in your sarong. wink

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    CharityHisle

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Now may be the time to create lists within your Facebook
    profile and start using them. If you do this, you will not
    have to worry about what pictures you post; only what list
    you've given permission to view the new photographs.

    Part of using these tools for business is knowing WHY you're
    using them and learn HOW to use them. If your employees
    are uncomfortable, you owe it to them to re-establish trust.

    As for Twitter, I think a certain element of human(ness) is
    expected. We all suffer loss, and if you feel the occasional
    need to express your personal feelings then do so. Part of
    connecting with people online is demonstrating our human
    similarities, keep tweeting the way you want.

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    L10_Chris

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    The policy is the policy

    Do what you feel is right; and remember that for those more
    "risky" photos you can always utilize Facebook's privacy
    settings to only share them with preferred groups or
    individuals. Again, remember that those people could take
    the photo and put it everywhere.

    One thing to remember is that no matter how much you may
    want to; you can't separate your corporate life and your
    private life in a social platform. No longer can you be the mild
    mannered guy at work and party animal at home. You are
    who you are and even more so online.

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    lori@...

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    I think you are right on target in your views for social media.

    Our authenticity is completely transparent, hopefully, we live our lives in a totally accountable way. What you see, is what you get. I try to show the true me on my Facebook page, which I use for marketing the Escrow Company that I own.

    People want to do business with my company because they like and trust me (elementary marketing concept!). So if I present a "CEO" image (like your coat and tie profile picture) one could argue that is the truly hypocritical FB page!

    Of course we strive to not offend on FB and in REAL Live too!

    I can't tell you how many people freak out at the thought of the wrong impression getting out on their FB page. I think they just don't get the whole picture.

    Thanks for your story!
    Lori Renberg
    Owner
    Ambergate Escrow

    PS become my fb friend....

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    Steve Tobak

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    Simple Answer

    Chip,

    CEOs are held to a different standard ? it?s called the board of directors which represent shareholders. You serve at their pleasure, as you know.

    My advice for any CEO:

    If you feel strongly about something, do it and deal with the consequences.

    If you?re not sure, check with the board. They?ll implement a process commensurate with the size and type (public/private, etc.) of company, including getting advice on practices at similar companies, and abide by their decision. Then your internal HR/PR people can match that with their policies and ensure there's no double standard.

    Alternatively, you can poll BNET's readers. wink

    Steve Tobak
    The Corner Office

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    *Jasmina*

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    If I was your friend I'd like to see you having a good time and enjoying life shirtless on some parking lot. But if I was just your fan or a business partner, I would prefer the blazer photo, simply because I don't see any point in poking into your private life. Recently I've read an article about some guy proposing a law against exposure of too much of personal information. It seems funny at first, but when you think about it, where's the line?

    I'm not as publicly exposed as you are, but I've faced the same dilemma, since I use facebook for keeping in touch with my friends and family and for promoting an altruistic organisation's activities. Among friends, I also have colleagues from the software company that I work for full time, plus all different kinds of acquaintances (from different discussion groups, people I met on seminars, that I share hobbies with, etc).

    Why not just separate professional from private, friends from fans? Facebook offers that possibility - you can have as many groups of people with different privacy settings as you want, you can have two separate twitter accounts, etc. I think this is something everyone should do, be it a CEO or "just an employee". I'd apply common sense and good taste here.

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    jpclarke

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Chip,

    Of course you are held to a different standard as a CEO. You play many roles as a CEO and you are whether you like it or not, more of a symbol than a flesh and blood person. Now the question becomes "does what you want your company to symbolize fit with your pictures on Facebook? If the answer is yes then by all means go for the tutu. The issue arises when your image gets out of line with your company image or the image you what to portray of your company. Thats why Richard Branson could get away with the tutu look and Barack Obama could not.

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    Linda Forrest

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    It sounds as though being on the cutting edge is part of your personal brand, so the issue of your Burning Man photos appearing on Facebook is totally in line with your personality and corporate culture.

    In today's day and age, the line between the personal and the professional is blurry at best. If you're a public figure, there's clearly no such thing as a "private" private life as everything you do is documented and shared online ad infinitum (see the burgeoning industry of blogs that repost celebrity tweets, follow reality TV stars around and air dirty laundry/public domain documents like the Smoking Gun). We all have to operate under these guiding principles, adhering to Jiminy Cricket's sage advice, letting our consciences be our guide. If you're adhering to your ethical and moral code and operating your business in the same manner, then you have nothing to fear.

    If you lose business because of something as silly as a Facebook photo, then the prospect didn't really "get" your company's brand anyway.

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    Lucerosp

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    I loved it!!

    To create damage to the company means 2 things:

    1. Bad image
    2. Steal/ fraud

    I wonder why CBS hasn't fired Letterman after all the sex harassment he has been involved with.
    I wonder why other small company doesn't fire a reporter who is always stealing money, equipment and he has lied over and over from the small little things to the biggest thing, which is a proper legal authorization to work in that country.

    Both cases are bad for the companies, but since is Media and TV, is moral "approved" that things aren't as transparent as the rest of the businesses environment, they consider both guys as an ASSET of FAME for the companies.

    So here it comes my question for you: How is your company affected by your employees personal life?

    If there is not consequences of them posting their nudity in Alaska, then, let them be... Although if they are nude in your company, which equals bad image for your company, then some action is required.

    A Mexican leader (Benito Juarez) said once: ?Among individuals as among nations, the respect to other people's rights is peace?, or in other words:
    live and let live, be and let be, Hear and let hear, see and let see!!!

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    gunny57

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    I am a Director of an Asset Management Co. in NZ. I pride myself of being outspoken and brutally honest, as our Industry is plagued by a level of Hypocrisy rarely reached in other fields, and by a lot of thinking sold as "prudently conservative" when is just entrenching to justify appalling performances or skipping breaches of fiduciary duties....

    I think your approach is honest, straightforward, at face value and refreshing.
    Your case by case policy to judge guided by your integrity and good sense in any situation, and not by prepackaged , righteously written "policies" is the only guideline that should be used both on the job and in life.

    And I am sure that given the type of business you are into and the culture that drives it, you can do without the "talent" that may be discouraged of being part of your organization by those pictures.

    I am with you...screw that...let them go to work at Marriott.

    Keep at what you are doing, the way you are doing it...and keep yourself supplied of doubts and questions...doubting and reassessing constantly in the face of every single situation and circumstance...is flexibility, is adaptability...is good.

    Keep it your way.

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    Bobwon

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Does it hurt your reputation or your business? How does your personal reputation relate to the business. In the case of running for President or other public office, it is directly related to the impressions of what others think about you. Would investors, business partners, customers refuse to do business with your organization because of your personal picture? I think you have to weigh the good with the bad. In many cases, having a personal acceptable side that you're a real person instead of living in the ivory tower, gives people the impression that you are approachable, fun, and provides a certain corporate culture which individuals may appreciate more. Southwest Airlines provides this type of attitude and their customers probably are more loyal to them. A supreme court justice on the other hand, will need to be more restrained not allowing their personal habits merge in to the public impression of them on being neutral or being on a certain side of politics. I believe you should use your best judgment. Small things can bring even the top guy down. Make sure that there is a statement posted with the picture so that there are no misconceptions on what you are trying to represent.

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    randall.douglas@...

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    As a former multinational company executive and current small business owner, I understand his plight. In my country, we have an annual carnival where everyone tends to let it all hang out - for better or worse. While I still feel you have to be responsible, freedom of speech and not acting like a hypocrite are important.

    Here is a link to an article that may help anyone be a little more private on facebook and keep things to the inner circle.

    http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/the-complete-guide-to-facebook-privacy/

    Randall

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    AZkjp

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    I have to say that jad67's response was the best so far.

    It applies to the policies that you make for your employees as well. It is within your rights to get as close to (or far away from) the proverbial hypocrisy line as you want. As well, it is within everyone else's rights to make an evaluation of such policies and decide how to react.

    You have the upper hand now due to the state of the economy. Policies and personal actions seen in a negative light have their consequences, nonetheless. You are part of the brand.

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    bpt9697

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    I agree with a previous comment. Keep personal and professional facebook info separate and only invite your "real" friends into your personal book. Clearly you've made good business decisions in the past, so let's use some common sense here. People still have an impression of what they expect to "see" of or in a CEO. Don't disappoint them.

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    ferreirodani@...

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Hi Mr. Conley!
    I enjoyed reading your article and I mostly agree with what you said.
    Regarding policy and procedures, there is something I always keep in mind: context.
    You gave us a big picture of your business and how authenticity is its stepping stone which makes me wonder:
    Is sharing one's personal endeavors at the core of your business?
    My answer is:
    I think that is part of what makes you authentic and your business successful. However, I always try to think about what's appropriate in a certain context.
    I believe when you first started your company these issues would not have come up. But in at the current stage of your business I would advise you to keep those "wild" pictures private. I would go further and advise you to take Facebook friendly shots of you in those events. After all I can see that your lifestyle is an inspiration to so many of your employees and probably what gave you your competitive edge in the first place.

    Cheers!
    Daniela Ferreiro

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    bnizzle

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Interesting story, I agree that the policy is primarily in place
    to protect the guest, employees, and company from varies
    hazards. The pictures of you at burning man, that is a
    personal nature and should have no relevance on your abilities as a CEO. That would be like me being passed over
    for a promotion because I have tattoos all over my arms. Like
    many others have stated, keep being you. I think that it is
    very refreshing to see someone with a position have some fun
    finally. Hopefully one day I can be employed by a
    company/organization that has a CEO like you.

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    eltie

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Chip Conley is a refreshing CEO. This photo makes me want to
    stay at one of his hotels. If a Joie de Vivre hotel can give me
    even half as much joy as he seems to be experiencing, I'm all
    for it. Way to go, CEO!

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    ssitterson1

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    I appreciate the sentiment and the desire to be authentic. However, a corporation is a going concern. It isn't about you even if it is your corporation. Keep your CEO/marketing profile 'you' in a way that appeals to the masses. Like it or not, the CEO should lead by example. We are all responsible for our brand; to the extent your profile is intended to represent the company, you should keep it professional. Would you go to work topless?

    I suggest being 'you' discretely. You can create a profile with a nickname that you can use to share yourself with all the people that mean something to you personally.

    Keep the gawkers and stalkers at an arms length! This was a good talk...thanks!

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    wkb2texans

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Really ... who cares?

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    adijaffe

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    I think that by shifting the focus from your business to your personality, you are damaging your company. If your point is to brand yourself, than all publicity is good. However, as a CEO your brand should be isolated from damage inflicted by any specific employee. Think if it this way: Would that picture more likely bring in customers or make people weary? If the answer is the former, start taking underwear pics, otherwise, put some clothes on...

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    RPiekar

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Comp your HR and PR folks a week at your spa at Big Sur and tell them to leave their ties at home and find out who they truly are. You already know yourself pretty well and you should continue to be yourself. After all, you own the frigging company! At the point where you are an accomplished author, if the employees have issues with who you are, they need to deal with their own feelings. As for the employees who look to you as a father figure; tell them to grow up because daddy's got a successful life and it is working just fine. Perhaps they should truly learn something from their "father figure" on the art of becoming successful. You are the visionary of the company. You didn't get their by living by someone elses rules or expectations; don't start now.

    Rob in Colorado

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    Joshae

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Chip!!! May I say you look really cute in your sarong and so far you have not broken any laws. However, you should consider seperating your business products from your social and post that great pic on a social /personal one. Continue to be yourself you really do have a great personality which is a plus for your business ......

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    mariamvca

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    You're the CEO, make your own judgement and your own policy! The rest will either follow or not.

    Btw, that's nothing to what Richard Branson has done.

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    thx2net

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Frankly, I agree with everything you've said. It's right on the money. I wonder what would happen if ourWashington constituents were just as "Authentic"?

    I admire these qualities in anyone, let alone a CEO. I run my small company in similar fashion and even let my employees spend some time on their personal facebook pages during the day (as long as it's not time abused they understand it's a "perk").

    Heck look at popular twitter pages or online content of various social media sites and they are filled with questionable images, writing and online behavior (these are typically authentic people).

    So many people, CEO's, celebrities and public figures included are not really authentic. Probably leaning more on the "fake" side than authentic.

    Frankly, I'm tired of the hypocritical behavior of most of our public officials and the "political correctness" society. If more people were authentic I think we'd be in much better shape as a society.

    As far a people getting offended - that's just too bad. If they don't like it they have options: don't read it, don't buy it, move to another country, or mind your own business.

    I think more people are authentic online than in person. As the keyboard provides a bid of freedom. Sometimes it's a bit abused as in "keyboard bravado" but personally I think social media has given people the freedom to express themselves.

    It allows us to stay in touch with or network with a lot more people than we would otherwise afford due to time. We all have online choices to make. If you don't like what you see/read you can "un-folllow, un-subscribe, opt-out, stop reading, block, or ignore" it.

    I wouldn't change a thing if I were you. Besides, it's exactly the cultural sort of thing San Francisco is about.

    Noah Wieder

    PS: My brother is Elliot H. (original founder of San Fransisco's own Just Desserts).

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    EmpressDivine

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    SMH!!!

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    OrganizeChicago

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    I think your outlook is refreshing and a testament to your being true to yourself and your first book. I'm just reading Michael Port's Book Yourself Solid, and one of the many outstanding bits of advice he gives is, (to paraphrase) "be yourself and your ideal clients will follow".

    Cheryl Vargas
    OrganizeChicago
    Chief Productive Solutions Designer

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    AliCeleste

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Don't ever change.

    Seriously - you are an amazing example that someone CAN be responsible and successful, while still being a partier. You're the kind of example that the Y generation is looking for and needs.

    I just said this to a friend as we discussed your post in an email: It's easier for everyone to insist you maintain a blazer, white collar front than to accept that you can be THIS successful with your shirt off in a sarong at Burning Man, i.e. Without having to front.

    Be yourself. That's the beautiful of social media - it allows for a level of transparency and interaction between a consumer and business that has never existed before.

    Personally I've never heard of your hotels (sorry, I'm a Floridian...?) but just seeing this makes me think "I need to stay in a place this guy runs. And then I need to friend him on Facebook and tell him about my experience because he will GET IT."

    And my generation, the generation who uses social media throughout most of our lives, will VALUE this.

    Seriously - Never change.

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    AllanHird

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    If you only represent yourself, do as you like: all consequences, good or bad, affect only you. When you represent others, then you have to consider them in what image you present to the world. Regarding Facebook and similar, you can group 'friends' into different categories and only reveal the information you want to each group. Thus, family and close friends can see everything if you like. Employees and/or other business related people only need see what you allow, which should reflect your image as a representative of others. As far as Twitter goes, it's published to the world and you need to guard what you say/write accordingly, just like an email or letter, or any other type of public communication. Again, the key point is that, as a CEO/Manager/Leader, you represent others and thus are accountable to them to some degree or in some fashion. If you don't agree, then I suggest that you don't understand the unspoken but instinctual and traditional social contract between leaders and followers, whatever label you give them. All of that said, HOW you represent yourself and your followers is between you and them, and that's where differences of opinion become meaningful.

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    rhinozrus

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    if people are that uptight, they need to unlink from facebook and stick to linkedin. It's not like your schwantz is all-out or anything, shee. the point of facebook is to glimpse the fun/ private/ personal side; must _everything_ be crushed down to a 100% politically-correct front that is sterile, super-professional, and all-about-the-weather ?

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    Heather Goodwin

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    I think the decision is more about how you want your employees and other stakeholders to see you. Maybe you need to look at this through the other end of the telescope.

    Personally, part of the magic of being employed by someone is how I view them - who I think they are, what they stand for and what they role-model for me.

    Take that away, or cheapen it, and suddenly the experience of working for that person changes and can't be unchanged.

    Are you sure that wanting to show your 'authenticity' on Facebook isn't just an indulgence on your part? 'Look! I've become so big and important I can get away with anything!'

    Tell Gerald Ratner that's a good philosphy.

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    Pinkrose1

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    One thing that you could consider is to keep the facebook account that your PR people set up a just a work related profile. So, you would only post things related to what is going on at work, and maybe the occasional conservative vacation photo.

    Then create a personal facebook account where you would post personal musings, your tutu photo and any other things related to your person life that isn't CEO of Joie de Vivre.

    I have a few relatives who have taken this approach. They have a personal profile that is associated with the email address that they use with friends and family, and then they have a professional profile that is associated with a business email address.

    That would take a little work and coordination on your part, but it would be an effective solution.

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    MASSA GRABBER

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Of course you should take them off, put new ones on then repeat...

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    johooo

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    This will probably turn into the future equivalent of double knit (70s), drinking chamapagne out of a boot (early 80s), big glasses (late 80s), or saying web centric a lot (late 90s)

    IN other words seems cool at the time but will turn into a self indulgent, dated, but mild embarrassment

    How can we know you are authentic, except for having to believe your assertion that you are authentically telling us you are authentic? Why do you presume others with a more conventional self presentation are inauthentic- does it gratify your own self importance to say so?

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    Gery Sasko

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Chip, In your business niche and the personal authenticity from which you successfully grew your company, I applaud your joie de vivre - and I'm sure many many others do too. Under your pictures we see the caption, "The two faces of Chip Conley..." but the one on the left looks like a zillion other pleasant business executives and the one on the right looks like someone special. You may be showing "two faces" but the true face is on the ebullient guy in the sarong. Long live that guy. If I am on the west coast I'll be staying at his hotels.
    Gery Sasko - President
    IntraFocus Management Consulting
    http://www.intrafocusmgt.com

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    adetutu23

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Ade from UK, I suppose its good you encourage your employees to be themselves, but the problem he is that that profile was created solely to promote the business and not to upload personal pictures from holidays (nothhing wrong with personal pictures) but to avaid these con flicts creating a different profile where contacts are people in your life and not people who work for you, then issues like this would then be avoidable.

    good luck

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    kernalkorn

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Those who ask that you take off your photos are stuck in the old paradigm. Again, you're spot on. You're leading the pack and you have a rabble of naysayers nipping at your heels, trying to take you down. Facebook is here to stay, it is a disruptive technology, and those that are being disrupted are soon going to be in the minority. I specialize in helping businesses tap into the revenue streams inherent in disruptive technologies, so I know what I'm talking about. This is not mere opinion, it is based on research. The bottom line is that one must remember, that the Gutenberg Press (which printed the Bible in the lay German vernacular) lead to a "disruption" known as the Reformation. New technologies disrupt the status quo and they don't like it. I applaud you for being once again a true and visionary leader.

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    Konigen

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    I can't believe it! Finally, there's at least, one sane person with common sense who's not afraid to be himself! Kudos to you, Chip!

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    aec2

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Too many people enjoy popping other peoples balloons, simply because they don't have any of their own. Your product works because you put your personal beliefs and vision into your product. Based on your success that shouldn't change now, personally or professionally. Just look out for the people wielding needles.

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    KurtzZZZ

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Chip,

    You don't need my advice, but it was an interesting article so I thought I'd chime in with a few comments.

    So, you're not a stuffed-shirt like so many other cookie-cutter execs (most of whom have not and will never achieve your level of success.) Your openness and creativity are an intrinsic part of the the talent that it took to build a great company from the purchase of the seedy flophouse in SF.

    You didn't work your way up through an already existing company with an ingrained "culture" that you had to buy into to advance up the ladder. You created your own culture, you live by it and, in my humble opinion, it's a good one. You obviously know that real creativity doesn't follow a set of rules handed down by our business forefathers or written down in a textbook, it springs from the qualities of honesty and openness, and the willingness to take the risks inherent in those qualities. You and your company woudn't be what they are today if you held yourself back (and this relatively unstodgy comment is coming from a fairly senior corporate finance guy!)

    I really don't mean to sound harsh, but as far as the complaints of some of your employees, my feeling (and I don't mean to sound harsh) is that your job is not to be their "father-figure" but to be their "CEO-figure"---and YOU get to define what that means. You're running a company, not a referendum on your personality. You've created a thriving company where presumably, creativity is encouraged. I'm sure that the employees that don't like your style are good people, but there are many, many stifling and soul-crushing places companies out there if they dislike the culture you've created.

    However, you often hear nowadays about companies doing web searches on candidate employees and turning down those candidates if "embarrassing" pics are found (not criminal, just embarrassing....although criminally embarrassing may be another issue!) If your HR dept is screening employees this way, then you have a credibility problem. But that doesn't seem to be the case unless HR is keeping you in the dark about it. Ah, I fondly remember the good old days when our embarrassment was limited to ourselves, our friends, and whomever they told!

    The twittering about the relationship is your choice if you don't mind everyone knowing what's going on in your heart and head. I admire your courage to be that open but I can understand how it might make some uncomfortable. You're not doing anything wrong, it's just that most of us just aren't that open about our personal lives (nothing wrong with that either.) The feeling of discomfort probably comes from the thought of having our own lives broadcast in such a way. But, to be honest, I sure wouldn't mind the voyeuristic view into my CEO's life!

    So, don't change and keep doing things your way, it's inspirational to know that there are successful executives out there who also happen to be real human beings. I mean, you have to admit that doing things "your way" has worked pretty well for you so far!

    P.S. Was in Big Sur a few months ago and my wife and I had a terrific dinner at Ventana. Will definitely go back!

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    KurtzZZZ

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Wow, just submitted my last comment and noticed how long it is! Being concise, apparently, is not one of my strengths.

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    julie@...

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    That is it!
    I'm staying at Joie de Vivre from now on. I know you'll be dressed for business when or if I see you at your workplace but I totally respect your right to do as you please when you are not at your workplace. (As long as you don't wear a topless tutu with the company logo)
    As a woman in business I have had all sorts of criticism (including one for innapropraitely sexy removal of my jacket when in a directors meeting even through I had a proper top with high neck and sleeves under it). Tell them all to build a bridge and get over it. People are diverse and so are their Facebook pages.
    Julie
    www.mclellan.com.au

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    karen.steen@...

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    Stanley Bing weighs in on Chip's dilemma

    Stanley Bing has some
    sage words for Chip in his column today: "This is his personality. Instead of making him feel bad about himself, [his PR people] might think about how to leverage his oddities into part of the brand identity. How about an ad with a picture of Chip topless and copy that reads, 'This is our CEO. We want you to have as good a time as he does. Joie de Vivre.'"

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    almcfarland

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Seriously, this is a question? Keep personal separate from business. Your shareholders will thank you. Your employees will be grateful they are no longer the brunt of bad jokes. And your guests will sleep easier knowing a pro is running the show.

    http://pivotpointsolutions.net

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    darlenedd9

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Dear Chip,

    I would look at this entire episode on a positive note from all angles. Believe me this is good pr drive, it has a great marketing edge, your living your vision and mission of your company. Everybody can relate to you and personally i am motivated and your a role model to others in every sense of the word. You love whatever your doing and you have balance in ur life and you are directly and indirectly passing this message to everyone. I like the spirit.. every other CEO is stressed or has no time for themself or their family/friends. Think about it...

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    cvaliquette

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    I say you got it right with ?Screw that, people who don?t like it can go work at Marriott.?

    It's only a double standard if you tell your employees that THEY can't post their burning man (or similar) pics, or that they must be your 'friend'.

    And hallelujah that there are CEOs out there with some personality who haven?t been beaten into lifeless sumbission by their PR agencies and lawyers.

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    dmsilva1

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    Take the path less traveled

    You didn't gain success from stiff rules and zero tolerance decisions, don't start now.
    It will never be easy to have a flexible policy based on good judgment, but I believe that is exactly what you and your company is about.
    Have a firm policy for those items that are strictly off limits (example: no pictures of guests without prior written authorization from the guest; no pictures of illegal activities), and then flexible policies for the questionable activities (example: someone dressed in S&M may at an underground club may be acceptable, but I can think of some scenarios where an employee dressed in S&M might go over the line- even in SF).

    You will have some tough decisions, but be fair and treat your employees as you would want to be treated and you will continue to succeed and may even get into the big hotel in the sky (I'm looking forward to seeing what you do to the place! wink

    BTW loved your book Peak

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    Dave.J

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    I would start by separating your fb friends into separate lists. It's easy to do and allows a lot of control over who sees your photos. You are never fully protected from people getting a hold of photos, but this can help separate you as a private individual and you as a business person without creating separate accounts. You can choose who sees photos each time you create an album. Those events you want both your customers and your friends to see can easily be shared with all of your friends. On the other end of the spectrum, you can post photos that only you can see, too (and change the privacy later).

    I appreciate that you are willing to share yourself as an individual with others. Good Luck!

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    nsggreene

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    I don't think there's a one-size-fits-all answer to this. Your
    case is different to other CEOs because of the nature of
    your business (very different from the CEO of a Financial
    Services company, let's say).

    I'd look at 2 things - First: How public is your profile. This is
    your PERSONAL account, right? Do your privacy settings
    allow your photos to be seen by the general public, or just
    "friends"? If it's just people who are personally acquainted
    with you, then you may want to consider carefully who
    those people are. Which brings me to the second
    consideration: Any work-associated contact who sees your
    photos is someone with whom you could be sitting face to
    face discussing business. Would it be considered
    inappropriate to be discussing business with them in the
    photographed attire? What impact on the business
    relationship could that attire have?

    I think once you answer those questions, you'll start to have
    a clearer picture of what's right for you.

    Good luck, and here's to being true to yourself.

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    edward.lisowski@...

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    The answer to your last question. ?Absolutely Not!? CEO?s need to maintain the standards.

    You seem to be a unique character that is set on enjoying life regardless of what people think. More people need to adopt this philosophy as long as nobody is gets hurt.

    The real dilemma is how social media portraits us in this brave new world.

    Great marketing! I think you?ve have drummed up few more customers.

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    rdadbhawala

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    If facebook is reading your post, they're probably now discovering a new "problem area" ... and are going to fix it by allowing users to post messages that are focused to a defined set of friends. Very soon, you'll get to choose who reads your message !
    Lets accept with complete honesty that we are different in different settings. I'm a different person at home, different at office. I relate to my friends in a more casual manner. I relate to my colleagues in a more formal manner. Of course, this is also expected of me from the people around me ... which is what happened with yourself.
    I use facebook for personal networking, where as LinkedIn for professional networking, and intend to keep it that way.

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    cjwagner

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    If you want to be stuck in that suit the rest of your life.... oh by the way it needs a tie.... go ahead and take the pics down. If a CEO is so narrow minded do your really want to be with that company anyhow??

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    JDVGM

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Chip, this is EXACTLY why I wanted to join your company and work for you. After 20 years of working for huge hotel corporations that are in constant fear of doing something that's not politically correct, I found those pictures inspiring. They made me smile, I work for a real person! I'd love to talk to the Cultural Ambassadors about how lucky they are to work for such a great company (and no... this is NOT sucking up to the CEO)
    To anyone reading this, can you be this open to your CEO???

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    safia_o

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    you are up-to-date CEO! Utilizing technologies and be transparent about it!!! That's totally CEO quality!!

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    Anu Sachdev

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    What you have mentioned in the end is so true, its a case by case basis.. its weird how grown ups cannot think on those lines as it is common sense!!! You are just perfect.

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    rawdaddy

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Now that I know that the CEO of Joie de Vivre is a Burner, you hotels will be the ones I look to first to stay at while in the Bay Area. Thanks for your honesty.

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    arnobo

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    I think that as CEO, you will need to surrender some of your rights. It goes with the territory. Because you are more visible, your every act is enhanced much further than the average employees' so you will have to be a bit less controversial except if you consider it good for business. The issue is not as much about your intentions as the perception of it. What I think it boils down to for any leader is how interested are you in changing perceptions to match your intentions? How much are you willing to pay to match both?

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    MBAMT

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Whoever complained about your photo was just jealous because you probably look better than them or have parents who don't know how to have fun. Leaders break the rules!!!

    Wish you success in all areas of your life!

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    Virgo09

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Nice to see a CEO actually enjoying himself, and not being a stuck up snob! We should all follow the philosophy of working to live and not living to work! It's very refreshing to see Chip in another dimension to what his staff might normally see day-to-day ... as long as he isn't mistaken for a 'Chippendale' what's the problem? As Chip is posting his personal pics for his own purposes he is obviously happy for everyone to see the real man behind the company facade. To a certain extent I agree with Joshae, separating business and personal posts is a good idea, but I say 'what the hell'! - be the real you.

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    epcb

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Take the risk - apply the case-by-case approach based on your
    corporate culture, shared values and principles. But have a PR
    contingency plan ready to go if someone decides to erode your
    corporate integrity byconstructing a "collated and captioned"
    images attack.

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    dinu_ad@...

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    I think you just hit the nail on the head when you said " Screw that" to you HR Manager. I believe in being yourself than putting up a pseudo attitude.
    The management gurus would tell you, the business is different and businessman is different....
    What harm would it do you were photographed sipping on a beer or being shirtless on a beach (be u a CEO or clerk). If Chip went ahead and deleted those photos, that would mean all employess have to follow him. They too wont be able to enjoy their holiday or be their self.
    So i think it is a great decision!

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    busimboks

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    HI Chip,

    I think that it is high-time that the face of business changed. In SA there is a huge drive at sustainability (which is becoming a corporate governance issue) and a drive at making corporations seem more human and accountable (King III). What makes an entity more human or more tangible than a CEO who is not only visible (in media, reports and in the board structures of the company), but is visible as having a life.

    I dont believe that credibility is tainted in what you are doing but rather that people may infer (old business heads and hearts) it upon you.

    Your employees should be grateful that you are, unbelievably, human and that you are balanced enough to have a life and run a million dollar successful organisation. there are many more things that they could cry about - unemployment could be one of them - this pales in comparison. They need to get back to work and ratehr take a lemon off of your tree and see how they cn actually do what you do. Have a life and also work successfully.

    Leave the pics on... travel more if you can and show them what the business name actually means happy

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    louobrien

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    I think I love you!!!! Seeing those pics on facebook may well make my mind up to stay at one of your hotels rather than a competitor. I think it should be a condition of every CEO that they are comfortable in a tutu on facebook - spread the love!

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    DebF

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    I agree - I would definitely stay at Chip's hotel.

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    hskhan

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Like you 'swftly' said Screw that! happy

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    Lily Teoh

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    A CEO = Chief Executive Officer = Human Too. Thus, he/she has every right to have his/her own personal life.

    For my point of view as a HR practitioner myself, I have always hold onto a personal belief that what an employee does on company's time is without a doubt is to adhere to all the rules and regulation or policies set up by the company. Ofcourse, with that said, it would only be natural that what they do in their personal time or personal space is totally upto them. It is not under the companys control.

    It's pretty norm, i presume that most, would say that the image of a CEO should be of such and such and such. However, should it be not limited to only during work hours / official functions. After all, the company does not own that employee/CEO for that matter.

    He/she is still an individuals..... it is however, without a doubt, most are incapable of separating between the two. Work and Personal life.

    Facebook = Personal... (choice of picture / friends upto him/her)
    Relationships = Personal.... (upto the individual)
    Family = Personal... (upto the individual)
    CEOs responsibilities = Work... (in the interest of the company)
    CEOs Function in company = Work (in the interest of the company)
    Company's policies = (in the interest of the business & company)

    So to me... I give you my respect and a toast!! Why? You're one of those CEOs who has manage to prove to your employees that you know how to walk that fragile line of knowing your role as a CEO but you too have got a personal life to lead, just as much as them.... so here's to you.

    Cheers!!

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    Mumbi

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    As a young female boss (28) with a staff of 20, i find it amusing that in this day and age the society still insists on viewing a person from a single perspective. Chip the CEO and completely ignore the fact that there's Chip the dad, Chip the guy who mourns the loss of a relationship, Chip the fun guy who likes Burning Man etc. All these are in one person.

    Keep up the spirit! I applaud your authenticity and your ability to keep in touch with all the different Chips.

    Lets move on to acknowledge a more balanced individual in the workplace.

    Mumbi, Nairobi-Kenya.

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    kymm

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    Yes, set the trend. Don't follow the crowd.

    As one who recently joined the corporate world, I'd rather see a CEO who's comfortable with who he is than one behind a mask.

    Way to go, Chip. This is actually a good way to promote your hotels. happy

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    Travis.Webster

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    Keeping Transparent = Happy Life

    Well, seeing as you have 93 comments on this already, it appears I am a little late to the ball game. Also, I did not take time to read all 93 comments, so I am sure there are some that agree and those that are against what I will say about this.
    -----
    This is the core of what every Executive, Political Official or Teacher should be adopting. It is a front that most leaders carry to "uphold" the character of the organization and keep it presentable. Really though, it is just a fake. I would rather be an employee, constituent or student of someone I saw was transparent and still believed in them than to blindly invest my time or money into a leader that at a whim would be known as a phony because they could not keep certain pictures hidden from the public.
    -----
    Honesty and Authenticity in private and public is the secret to a healthy and happy and potentially prosperous, stress-free 85 years of life.

    - Travis M. Webster

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    IstvanVVolf

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    A Quick Fix: use FB lists as filters

    Censorship is almost always at odds with authenticity; there's just no easy way 'round it. You can compromise a bit and use lists to sort the public persona from your private, social media life:

    http://www.nytimes.com/external/readwriteweb/2009/09/16/16readwriteweb-5-easy-steps-to-stay-safe-and-private-on-fac-6393.html?em

    "Friend lists, like they sound, are lists for categorizing your friends into various groups. The nice thing about this feature is that once you set these lists up, you won't have to do it again. We suggest that you put your work colleagues and professional acquaintances into a friend list designated "work," personal friends you're not very close with into a list called "Acquaintances," and people you're related to into a list called "Family." Those three main categories will separate out the groups of "friends" who you may want to hide some information from."

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    mbanefo-p@...

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    you are who you are, and who you are you are. That's what makes you the person you are. Don't change it for anyone.

    Cheers!
    Mbanefo. P - London

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    rawhite1969

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    tomrogers6 hit this on the head. Two FB accounts. one for your real friends and one for professional purposes. Then use them appropriately. Not everyone needs to know everything about you. Social media has its place, but needs to be used effectively or it will just go away.

    I personally don't like corporate involvement and advertising via FB. Fortunately as FB users we have the ability to choose what we are fans of, friends of etc.

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    itsanewdayeveryday

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    The main issue here is that your facebook account was started by your PR dept as a way to promote your company. Hence, it was meant as a business tool which is open to all including your employees. People will therefore expect business / corporate type discussions / photos etc. Sorry, but they don't want to hear about your personal challenges. You admitted that its only recently you began to post personal things. This is not appropriate for a business facebook account. Solution?? Continue the current account and keep it on business matters, and open a new personal account where you can post whatever you want. Make it clear this facebook account is about Chip the man and not Joie de Vivre.

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    Lee Cooper

    11/04/09 | Report as spam

    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Chip

    Fire your PR team - you clearly don't need them. This is one of the most interesting, thought provoking articles I have read in a long time. You certainly have my attention. You are both sensitive and respectful to your people and come across as an engaging, challenging and dynamic leader. Good for you, no wonder you are successful. Expect to see your inbox flooded with speculative resume's from people desperate to work for you. I suspect the volume of comment here stems from the fact that so many of us in Corporate World are desperate to break free from our shackles and post pictures of ourselves looking like this!

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    Joyous_LadyJ

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    I commented early on but after reading some other posts I found there was more I wanted to say.

    One person commented: People still have an impression of what they expect to "see" of or in a CEO. Don't disappoint them.

    While that is their opinion it is not how all of us feel. This is clearly evidenced by those who have indicated they are now interested in staying at your hotels. Personally, I was delighted to read of a CEO with your attitude. Early in my career I became "my job title". Fortunately I grew out of that stage and life is great fun now but many are still stuck in a paradigm where they think they have to 'act like a CEO' or 'act like a VP' or 'act like whatever they are or want to be' regardless of whether acting that way is true to themselves.

    Not only is that not fun; it is not healthy.

    You are a leader. You have led your busienss by following your instincts and now you are leading on a broader stage by putting yourself out here with this story. Sometimes others need someone to show them the way and you are doing that here.

    For those looking for a Father figure I am reminded of those children of adult parents who protest and are uncomfortable when Dad falls in love with a new love. Many children tend to protest the changes they see rather than celebrate the happiness their parent has found.

    You are an inspiration and I will certainly consider your establishments when in California.

    Joyous_LadyJ@OnlyPostivePerspectives.com

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    rainy_day

    11/04/09 | Report as spam

    Protect Your Emlpoyees, too

    Does your social media policy stipulate something that protects your employees? You may not have a problem with someone drinking from a beer bong or in S&M get-up, but one of the managers that works for you might. Obviously, every social-media related incident is not going to be filtered up to you, and I think it would go a long way to alleviate the double-standard perspective if you included something protecting your employees, too.

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    BNETComment2

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Finally! Common sense.

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    psherw01

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    It's not about what YOU think of the pictures, it's about the message the pictures send. Once you put the message (the pictures) out there, it's effectiveness is determined by the receivers of the message (those viewing the pictures.)

    You can support the photos all day long with explainations of your personal philosophy and why you were wearing a sarong, but the viewer can still decide in the first nanosecond of viewing that you look like a middle-age, frat boy wanna be on a spring break.

    So if that's OK with you, keep the pictures up.

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    jutter99

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    Its all good.

    Its ok to be your self. One of my old boss's was a drag queen. After I got over the shock of seeing him out, I thought about it and laughed. What he wants to do with his time had nothing to do with me. And he was proud of himself having a good time. Hey Im pretty open minded. I thought it was kind of funny. Sir, You have to live life too. I suggest that you keep your business standards but if something comes up like your example's, be reasonable with your staff. Have a lighter hand in how you handle that.
    Cheers!

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    BNETComment2

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    The only group that will disapprove with this type of Facebook postings: Human Resources and Recruiters.

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    cassian72@...

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Chip

    Seems to me like you have some up and coming stick in the mudders on staff. Keep your pics, but I would have accepted staff or strangers/colleagues and business associates on limited profile and upload my pics to only allow my real friends on FB to see my pics...whether they're pics of me in a sarong or a suit...the thing about FB is that people who have access to your pics can download them and do whatever they want with them...the internet creates photo perpetuity.

    I think you should keep the core stuff that made you the ceo of a 230 M co.

    On the point of the policy, it should be more specific and spelled out and maybe needs to be redone and rolled out again so that employees understand what are the crimes and misdemeanours and what aren't.

    Stay you.

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    marinakulba

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Leave the burning man pictures on. Be the authentic you..without that you will live a sanitized life catering to the one offs on the world...

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    elizabethrizzo

    11/04/09 | Report as spam

    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Chip,

    Facebook isn't all that public, as it only allows those who you permit to see your page those to whom you specifically accept.

    Perhaps the problem is you, by your own admission, "friended" alomost anyone who sent a request, even those you may never have met. Some of those folks were not your actual friends...some were employees, some perhaps in your corporate rollodex, and there IS a difference.

    You may require two FB pages, one for the people who know you on the business level (a fan page) and one for your real friends. And next time, be more particular about who you call "friend."

    That said, I say it's a wonderful thing to show the real you. But today's idea of "business casual" stops well before a tutu.

    Best,
    Elizabeth

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    MeiMei Fox

    11/04/09 | Report as spam

    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Chip,

    I agree with your assessment that this issue must be addressed on a case by case basis. Your photos seem in no way inappropriate or sexually suggestive to me. I think it's completely in line with the Joie de Vivre philosophy for you to go to Burning Man and post photos revealing your enthusiasm for life. However, it gets tricky when you have policies for your employees and they feel you're not following those guidelines... As long as you've clearly explained to them your position and made the rules as specific as possible, it seems that you've done all you can. I hope you always continue to be your authentic, joyful, rebel self!!

    Best,
    MeiMei Fox
    Writer, Life Coach, Yoga Instructor
    www.meimeifox.com

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    akmanager

    11/04/09 | Report as spam

    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    In the shirtless photo you appear much older and weaker than the other photo. What you have on your personal page is your business. But that shirtless photo is not good for your corporate page. You just don't look good in that pose, much less professional. No one cares what you do privately but you really look bad in that photo. The shirtless photo does not appear sexual to me but it is also not attractive. If you are not a blazer guy try a polo shirt or anything other than a shirtless pose for your professional page. Also watch your posture for the shot- compare the two shots one has strong posture the shirtless one is weak posture.

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    IETim

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Chip,
    I think your first "gut" feeling about posting the pics was fine; your employees and customers can see that you place a priority on having fun (within the constraints of legality and good taste). We all know that having fun away from the job is an integral part of being a contributing and productive employee. This holds true for CEOs as well as anybody else.

    Regarding your company's policy, I agree with one poster who said you should be as clear and concise as possible. Addressing complaints or concerns on a case by case basis is fine, but there needs to be an objective standard. As technology and social standards change, so must the policy, but that is the bane of our era.

    Regards,
    Tim Niemi
    EHS Coordinator

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    BarefootCEO

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    It's interesting to see the outcome of this, having chatted about it right after Burning Man.

    I personally implement a lot of what I learn at Burning Man into my business philosophies. I don't
    think it is fair to censor the experiences that have inspired me to lead my company and industry
    the way that I do. I love that Google has pictures of Burning Man all over their office.

    I would prefer that we were all completely transparent about who we are and merge our business
    and personal worlds. But as of now, Burning Man is the only place I know of that accepts that and
    the rest of the world loves to judge you based on your differences. As a result, I have some things
    that are personal and just for the eyes of close friends and family. As a result, I set my privacy
    policies in Facebook based on what I am willing to share with the public and only with friends. I
    encourage my employees to do the same.

    Look at it this way - it is your rebel attitude and being yourself that got you this far. It's our
    differences that make us great, right? Who gains significant success through strict corporate
    policies and PR guidelines? Better way to say it - Who wants to?

    Social media is meant to be an authentic expression of yourself or your organization. I really don't
    think today's PR agencies have a strong understanding of how best practices should be enforced
    with social media. I think your policies should encourage your employees to express who they are
    without compromising the organization. Any information that is owned by the business (hotel
    guests, strategies) should be controlled by the business. Any information that is owned by the
    individual, should be controlled by the individual.

    Chuck Longanecker
    CEO
    digital-telepathy
    www.dtelepathy.com

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    Phreddiva

    11/04/09 | Report as spam

    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Hello Chip,

    Thanks for the article. As a manager of Thunderdome (something of which I am very proud), an opera singer, and a project manager at Adobe, I quite frequently find myself reconciling the seemingly divergent facets of my life.

    What it comes to is this (and it is something to which you allude) - the things that have made me the most successful are the things which make me unique. When I have tried to conform, it has gotten me into a world of hurt, professionally and personally.

    Being true to yourself has gotten you where you are; continue it. A lot of people don't understand all that goes on at Burning Man. I hope that, by living well, and being honest, people will look at my experiences (and pictures) and realize that it's not all about drugs and nudity and that, if someone like myself can be both a burner & a success, then perhaps they have to re-evaluate what they've thought of Burning Man.

    Taking the pictures down, to me, says that there is something there of which you should be ashamed. It suggests that people who think it's all about drugs and raves are right. I can't let those people win.

    Best of luck, and come by the Thunderdome!

    -Marisa

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    notso62

    11/04/09 | Report as spam

    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Um, you're not a kid anymore, I think it's time to refrain from shirtless pictures in general unless you are a paid professional (model). EVERYONE (CEOs and minimum wagers included) should abide by the laws of good taste---- the world (including your respective social network) would be a prettier place!

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    SD2117

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Your outlook is realistic. What used to be private is now public for anyone who has an account on facebook, myspace or twitter. I have only been in the "real world" for 1.5 years and throughout my last year of college, each professor took the time to lecture their class about the perils of posting pictures of yourself drinking on facebook. I understand there is a line that can be crossed when it comes to pictures - but wasn't everyone 21, 22, 23 at some point? Not judging a job candidate based on a picture they took at a college party should be the norm, not the exception to the rule. The same standard should be applied to managers, vice presidents, presidents and, yes, CEOs! People have lives outside of work - let's not act so surprised!!!

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    jad67

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Not surprisingly, the respondents largely hold to one of two views, i.e., "well done", or "you should know better", and this would correspond in turn - I suggest - to the readiness of those same respondents to post their own sarong-garbed photos, or not.
    Thus, we see that when you choose to be yourself, you must accept that others must also be allowed to be themselves, even if that extends to a dislike that can't readily be rationalised, just as claiming the right to disport yourself, etc, etc., can't be rationalised

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    mainbrace

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Re: #107 BNETComment2

    Sweeping statement. I'm an HR Manager and a big part of my role is recruitment, I started my FB years ago just to connect with my employees. Now I use it as a company alumni and see no reason not to post personal pics and comments because I trust myself not to cause offence.


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    mmroczek

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    I fall firmly on the side of "BE YOU." Be authentic. Whether that is attending and posting about Burning Man...or thinking the whole thing is inappropriate. do what is appropriate your you, personally. As long as you aren't being lewd, illegal, or compromising the integrity of your business, I think you are on-track. It's ok to be different! You know that!

    Craft your social media policies to fit your firm--don't just copycat what other firms craft as their policies. You defined it in your article--be clear on what is acceptable (sharing your life) and what is not (sharing sensitive company info, compromising guests, illegal activity).

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    qviews

    11/04/09 | Report as spam

    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Do no harm. The social media mantra for the ages.

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    cardioqueen

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Chip I briefly met/saw you at one of your hotel's grand openings last year...I wouldn't believe you'd be a burner, but you wouldn't think an HR professional was a burner either. You have ever right to post the pictures you want others to view. Anyone who says different is just old and doesn't see the world as a wonderful place with all kinds of people that enjoy different things. This is a different world. Embrace it.

    I would be proud if you were my boss!!

    Hope to see you next year.

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    IndraniBose

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Hi,
    I have led multicultural teams over the years, and being a female boss in middle east , fairly adhering to modest conservative rules, I still like to be in touch with my real self after work hours! Please continue to be who you are and let your team know how normal , and human you are, you are honest, and genuine and that's a huge statement to make!...it will be easy for them to connect with you. I would love to have a boss like you.
    rgds
    Indrani Bose

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    yenyong@...

    11/04/09 | Report as spam

    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Hi:
    good to see your post.
    to be safe and right, i think you could declare this platform as the "new nation" that you could start a new defination.

    As FB is one of its kind Nation, i think you could do it right if you have it define with care.

    Yen, Malaysia

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    newmediajim

    11/04/09 | Report as spam

    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    I work at a major media corporation, at the bottom end of
    the corporate ladder. I'm a news cameraman who's gained a
    modicum of notoriety on these here interwebs. Because of
    this reach, my social media use is scrutinized and called to
    task at times. Mr. Conley, your employees are rightly
    looking for leadership here.

    "The feedback I got was that it looked like I was setting a
    double standard by creating a policy for everyone at the
    company except me."

    You are in a position of leadership. Even the simple
    appearance of a double standard on your part should be
    enough to compel you to do the right thing here.

    "So as for a double standard, I don?t buy it. I do think it?s
    important that companies have a social media policy, and I
    don?t think I violated the one my company just rolled out.
    Should a CEO be held to a different standard? Let me know
    what you think is right."

    Of COURSE you should be held to a different standard!!
    Frankly, there's absolutely nothing wrong with the picture
    shown here. In fact, you look a bit conservative for Burning
    Man. Regardless, you're equivocating here and if you're
    about to write company policy that ultimately has
    unequivocal results, you should probably take down the
    pictures, adjust your privacy settings, pen a short
    explanation memo and be done with it. I agree that each
    looking at employees use of social media, and the inherent
    risk, should be looked at on a case by case basis.

    Recently I was asked to do a presentation at the Inbound
    Marketing Summit in Boston entitled rel="nofollow" href="http://vergenewmedia.com/2009/10/19/the-unlikely-
    brand-ambassador-my-presentation-at-the-inbound-
    marketing-summit/">"The Unlikely Brand
    Ambassador"
    , where I talk about managing risks
    and reaping rewards with social media. Ironically, the
    whole thrust of the preso, was about EMPOWERING rank and
    file employees like myself, not CEO's


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    MASSA GRABBER

    11/05/09 | Report as spam

    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Lot of brain power here knocking around some ideas on abeyance to social norms or thought migration from one type of ideologue in and out of business. Good stuff!
    Now, do this with your elite rulers machinations. That would be amazing as most of you seem plugged in.
    Too hot to handle for Chip but KurtzZZZ now you could do this. I'll look for it!

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    nasoya777

    11/05/09 | Report as spam

    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    `This is the typical dilemma of what means to be happy. I have also been working at what it makes different people happy. Once's happiness may cause unhappiness to others. It is a philosophical question that needs to be addressed. Can society evolve a culture that promotes a gross-happiness and net-happiness content? Is it possible?
    My take on this is we can aggregate universal codes of good corporate conduct but there is a need to allow for our individual individuality. Come to think of it, it is the "rebellious" have always define the borders of innovation and expanded our human civilisation. The evolution of corporate social media policies to some limited extent, in this wise, becomes an anathema to this precept because it only seeks to protect owners by stiffling workers freedom. See! LARRY HAPPIDAY

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    blue_vivid

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    An eagle was sitting on a tree resting, doing nothing.

    A small rabbit saw the eagle and asked him, ?Can I also sit like you and do nothing??
    The eagle answered: ?Sure, why not.?
    So, the rabbit sat on the ground below the eagle and rested. All of a sudden, a fox appeared, jumped on the rabbit and ate it.

    Moral of the story:
    To be sitting and doing nothing, you must be sitting very, very high up.

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    Gwen Books

    11/05/09 | Report as spam

    Don't give in!

    Chip,
    Your photos exemplify the name and vision of your company Joie de Vivre! In my professional experience working with high profile CEO's, many do not take off time to play; you seem to understand the importance balance of work/play. If the photos were obscene, I would say remove them.

    I, myself have a silly photo on my Facebook page- I sometimes play the gong in the Green Street Mortuary Band- the photo shows me in my Gong Girl marching uniform and cap. I don't think it has hurt my business at all. Why can't successful individuals share their silly and fun traits- it is part of why people enjoy working with us.
    Gwen Books
    Founder Lifestyle Management

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    mactrekker

    11/05/09 | Report as spam

    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    ?Screw that,? I said. ?People who don?t like it can go work at
    Marriott.? Amen brotha! If I didn't LOVE my job and the
    company I work for, I'd want to come work for you! You are
    real. You care about your employees. You care about your
    customers. Best of all, you believe in living life to it's
    fullest! Most CEO's would think those things would not make
    for a profitable business... but you have proven them
    wrong. Stick to your guns and follow your instincts. They
    have obviously served you well thus far! BTW: did you say
    you were available? wink

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    oglebus

    11/05/09 | Report as spam

    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    In this day and age where anything goes, and social skills and public realtions reflect the "all about me" and the "screw the rest of the world" attitudes, I believe it is important for leaders in any context to consider the message and example they want to set. Yes, everyone is entitled to their "private life." But when you are in the public eye you have a responsibility, and along with having gazillions of dollars, you give up some of your privacy. Young people need examples of good judgement and of making appropriate decisions. You said that some of your employees look up to you and respect you, take that as a serious responsibility as any mentor should. These people want to feel pride in where and with whom they work. Don't embarrass them just because "you are being true to yourself." It is a knife edge to balance on to not seem hypocritical and yet present a leader as someone to be respected. If you say that the employees who dislike your Facebook/Twitter behavior can "work at Marriott" well, it may be a great gain to your competitors and a great loss to you if they leave. A great leader accepts honest criticism and other pints of view, no great leader has ever surrounded him/herself only with "Yes men or women".
    Ms. Old Fart.

    P.S. As a native Nevadan who has seen Burning Man, I do not understand how and why rich people (and you have to have thousands of dollars of disposable income to attend) think it is so cool to sit out in a desert playa in the wind and heat, getting chemically "enhanced", filthy dirty, naked, dehydrated, major skin irritaions and eye injuries due to the alkaili dust to enjoy themselves? Just wondering.

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    bloodoc

    11/05/09 | Report as spam

    Many are surprised they are father figures

    I totally understand why you thought it odd that your
    employees viewed you as a type of father figure. I know I am
    surprised by that and I am not even a CEO. As soon as one
    has people reporting to you, the relationship changes and
    some may view you as an authority - and yes - a father
    figure. After all, many of them are striving to match the
    accomplishments of the team leader, manager, etc.

    Unless somebody tells you, you may not realize how people
    are viewing you but it is important. Not only with Facebook
    posts, but also with all other visible things one does or says.
    So one needs to realize that employees notice the manager's
    language, dress, work ethic, hobbies, activities, etc.
    Everybody in a position of authority should be aware of this,
    even if you don't feel like a father.

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    knuspermuesli

    11/05/09 | Report as spam

    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Oh come on. Really?

    When I see pictures of someone (a work colleague or a
    friend) at Burning Man, I know that it means they were using
    illegal drugs and/or participating in that environment.

    In that sense, REGARDLESS of my or anyone's personal
    opinion about drug legalization, you have just become a
    liability to the company you built.

    Frankly, it's embarrassing when someone as old as your father
    cavorts around at Burning Man in a tutu. This is your personal
    expression? Sounds pretty predictable to me. White men at
    Burning Man is not exactly...counter culture anymore.

    If you're truly about personal expression, find something
    authentic and legitimate. And take your personal photos off
    of your corporate Facebook page. Have some respect for
    your investors or shareholders.

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    bnetcorinne

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    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Add me as another vote for keeping the photos. You strike me as the kind of leader I would love to have. Having had a CEO call employees "family" one minute and "resources to be realigned and reallocated" (otherwise known as laid off) the next, I would much rather have a CEO who is authentic. If you fall prey to corporate speak or placing too much value on appearances for investors and shareholders, the employees and the company end up suffering. You seem to want rules that apply to all employees including yourself and to really live Joie de Vivre, which I think is honorable. I think you show far more respect for your employees and investors/shareholders by being fully yourself. It is interesting, you are being held to this nebulous "CEO" standard at a time when most people have very little respect for the average CEO.

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    rcycan

    11/06/09 | Report as spam

    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    "What, exactly, does it take to damage the image of the company?"

    I'd thik that depends on what the image of the company is. Can you denfine the image in objective terms?

    "...our mission statement is simple: to celebrate the joy of life. "

    So maybe an image of someone in blazer damages the image of celebrating the job of life.

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    divajoe

    11/06/09 | Report as spam

    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Simply by being on facebook and twitter you are most definately
    making your personal life public. Richard Bransom is a
    crazy, fun loving guy, but is still dignified in his actions.
    I personally think you need to grow up and that you
    are fortunate to be surrounded by top notch personel,
    listen to them, that is why you hired them.

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    augieray

    11/06/09 | Report as spam

    Is it personal or is it professional?

    I guess I'm having some troubles with these two back-to-
    back sentences: "Only recently has my personal Facebook
    page become very personal. My PR agency set it up..." It's
    personal... but your PR agency set it up? That makes it
    sound awfully professional to me! (I don't have stats on it,
    but my guess is that the vast majority of Facebook users set
    up and maintain their personal profiles without the aid of a PR
    agency.)

    You certainly have every right to post personal pictures to
    your personal Facebook page where personal contacts can
    see them. But this isn't really what you did, is it? If it's a
    professional, business-oriented, PR-focused profile you've
    created (excuse, I mean "had created") for you, then I don't
    think you can take a screw-what-my-employees-think
    attitude.

    In the end, whether you keep the photos up or not isn't all
    that important; what's important is what the photos
    represent and what your reaction represents. That's
    what worries me more, actually.

    Your reaction wasn't transparent and open--it was
    reactionary and closed: ?Screw that; people who don?t like
    it can go work at Marriott." You instituted the amabassador
    program, allowed employees to vote on their ambassadors,
    and told them they have power--and then respond not by
    engaging the ambassadors but by broadcasting to the world
    your initial reaction to their reasonable concerns was "screw
    that." If I was an ambassador reading this, I'd question your
    commitment to your own program and I may be considering
    telling you to keep your toothless ambassador position. (I
    may also be taking you up the "go work at Marriott" offer.)

    You've put your feelings and a couple photos on Facebook
    ahead of your culture and employee empowerment. So, you
    asked "What, exactly, does it take to damage the image of
    the company?" My answer might be this: Shirtless pictures
    of the CEO: Probably not. Failing to respect your own ambassador program and turning to outsiders for support
    rather than engaging your employees in a dialog about why
    they found the photos objectionable: Probably damaging!

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    h20lue

    11/06/09 | Report as spam

    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Truth is a thing of beauty... fearless in the face of all
    adversity... You are helping bring a new path into existence...
    We can be, and are, all things... It's timely to live a life out
    loud... To come out from behind closed doors... Freedom to
    be... Freedom of expression... To in-joy in peace... No longer
    piece... Total.

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    cecelia.elisa

    11/07/09 | Report as spam

    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Bravo. Bringing a humanist touch to the corporate world adds rather than detracts from credibility. By demonstrating your muli-faceted appeal to the people you serve you might send shock waves to the core of your more conservative counterparts but to the rising wave of younger generational leaders in development a clear message of diversity in action. As CEO you have already demonstrated prolific acumen in your field, attaining the pinnacle of power and position revealing your humanist nature, worthy of Erasmus you inspire others to achieve a more open and honest dialog as it relates to those they serve and lead. Courage is one of four cornerstones of transformational leadership. Refreshing

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    joel.peters

    11/07/09 | Report as spam

    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Seems to me the major issue is protection of privacy of hotel clients. Taking your shirt off at Burning Man does not compromise anyone's privacy but your own.

    The second issue is preservation of the image of the company. In terms of the employees twittering or posting re: illicit or illegal activities, that should be judged on a case by case basis. If deemed damaging to the group, there should be consequences. This judgement should be left to the people who define the vision and strategy of the company; if you don't feel the Burning Man pics compromise these things, then they don't. At that point, if employees disagree with your vision, they should consider working elsewhere.

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    Alexlancashire

    11/08/09 | Report as spam

    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Excellent bit of PR Chip. Good on you. 140 replies, just by getting a hand ful of staff to 'complain' in the right ear! Who needs an add campaign when you can do this. and you jolly well know exactly what is correct. Right is right, and wrong is wrong. You put up your holiday snaps who gives a fig, you put up an illegal 'pic' of you doing "xyz" and that's wrong. Same rules apply to your staff, everyone reading this including me. What's illegal? Just go ask your local copper. Keep smiling.

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    www.hayda.net

    11/08/09 | Report as spam

    Message has been deleted.

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    ludosv

    11/09/09 | Report as spam

    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    I'm Italian and I live and work in Italy (in Savona, near
    Genoa), and I can say that here probably the tieless picture
    would be already bordering it. As for the shirtless one, well,
    here only the Prime Minister can do things like that...
    I wonder whether all of your hotels are in the US, and in
    what areas. I would suspect that some of the more negative
    reactions you got may have come from, let me say it, more
    backward parts of your country, or from other more
    backward countries (like Italy).
    However, some of the comments here make a point that you
    might want to consider: having set up a system hereby your
    employees have some saying in the company setup (the
    ambassadors), you should probably refrain from an easy
    "screw them" attitude.
    Anyhow, I agree with most people here that it's refreshing to
    see a CEO defending his right to be human, just human.
    All the best,
    Luciano

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    ImportantComment

    11/09/09 | Report as spam

    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    I am a young employee. I am hip and cool. But I know what it takes There is a line between work and personal life and everyone draws that line in a different place. As a leader YOU have to respect that. If you have the attitude that you can do what you want when you want, why can't your employees? Just wait until they take the line too far and you get sued. That will help you remember to act like a leader.

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    ReneeValdes

    11/09/09 | Report as spam

    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Go with authenticity. It takes guts and I applaud you. It also
    goes with your philosophy. PR firms (I'm a PR exec) always say
    to be true to your brand. If you as a personal brand are about
    authenticity - the shirtless photo flies. It sounds to me like
    you've been operating a company with the same sort of
    philosophy and culture. However, a former boss once wisely told
    me, "lead by example" so whatever social media policies you
    institute, do apply to you.

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    jlazerus

    11/09/09 | Report as spam

    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    1- It has the appearance of "fiddling while Rome is burning" to
    me, because you are, in fact, a CEO.
    2- You are not a "rebel" in any way shape or form. If you think
    you have to *prove* you're cool all the time, you probably
    aren't.
    3- The privileged class gets to do what they want, period. Why
    even ask? Because:
    4- The whole "issue" will sell more books, which are no doubt
    delightful modestly described autobiographies dramatizing
    your life as a misunderstood narcissist. I had never heard of
    you before, so that worked really well!
    5- I would prefer the proprietor of the hotel I stay in to be a
    well groomed and sedate individual who cares about his
    customer's wishes more than his own. But, I am clearly not
    the sort of person you want at your hotels, so this hads turned
    into a win-win situation!

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    jad67

    11/10/09 | Report as spam

    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Time to close this discussion down now...
    Let Chips take all the advice and work on it.

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    Parker.

    11/10/09 | Report as spam

    Brilliant!

    Now that's what I call, "True Grit!"

    Learning to think outside the box and avoid being closed minded. To know anything less than multiple sides of a case is ignorant. Especially when trying to make judgements on one's ability to manage and perform their duties, solely based on vacation pictures...

    Kane

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    Jperl

    11/10/09 | Report as spam

    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Peoples' livelihoods depend on this guy's continued
    marketability. Let your freak flag fly on your own time, Chip.

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    Pheck

    11/10/09 | Report as spam

    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Some people never leave their village.
    It's a perspective thing and some people never get out of their comfort zone, or leave the places that they grew up in; emotionally; culturally; business wise or in any other way.
    Just because you became CEO of your own successful company doesn't mean you should be allowed to be who you are, or diminish the spark that made you and your company successful in the first place. If an expression of that is through sharing pictures of an event that you went to then great. Maybe that's why your CEO?
    Mediocrity knows nothing higher than itself, but talent instantly recognizes genius. - Sir Arthur Conan Doyle

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    KurtzZZZ

    11/11/09 | Report as spam

    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    jad67 in post 147 says:

    "Time to close this discussion down now...
    Let Chips take all the advice and work on it."

    Ummm....not for nothin', but who are you?

    If people are still interested enough to take the time to comment, let them do it! There are a lot of websites out there---go read another one if you're bored with this one. We don't need a hall monitor.



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    wkb2texans

    11/12/09 | Report as spam

    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Way to go ZZZ! No one going to tell us it's time to shut this discussion down, right? We can continue on ad nausem with opinions that matter little to anyone ... for as long as we want. I mean, does Jad67 not recognize that we are the kings and queens of wise discourse? How dare he (obviously one of the unannointed) have the unmitigated temerity to suggest it's time to shut things down and get back to directing our energies and attention to issues more serious than whether some guy most have never heard of should be posting shirtless pics of himself on Facebook. I mean, really ... how dare this guy have his own opinion!! Dude, you really told him what's what! Thanks for setting him straight ...

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    KurtzZZZ

    11/12/09 | Report as spam

    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Ugh. My apologies to everyone else in this thread for wasting space to respond to the post above which is directed at me. It will be my one and only response to the poster.

    wkb2texans: Thank you for the insightful post.

    You see, here's the thing--and I'll keep it simple for you: If I'm not interested in a discussion on a website, I just don't go to that discussion string anymore. If I think the posts are a waste of my time....try to stay with me here....I don't read them anymore. Sometimes, and this may seem crazy, I will not go to entire websites because I don't believe that I will be interested in the content! And I, most definitely, would not waste my time defending someone who wants to end a discussion about a subject that I find unimportant or trivial. You are either just an angry person looking for a battle or you have enough free time to have invented a way to mathematically square the time that you waste.

    No one is forcing you or Jad67 to click into this discussion. It's sorta like television, if you don't like the show, you (or, I should say, most people) change the channel. We don't campaign to have the show taken off the air just because WE dislike it.

    You definitely have the right to your own opinion. I said above that your post is insightful, but I meant that it provides some insight into a narcissistic mind which believes that it can decide for others what is and what is not a useful discussion. You, apparently, can best decide for all of us which "more serious issues" to which we should direct our attention and energies. It must be frustrating for you that we've lived our lives without, so far, the benefit of our wise counsel which would have directed us to the issues that you have defined as important.

    This issue raised by the article is, actually, very relevant in today's business world with the explosion of social media deeply impacting both how we work and communicate. As a senior exec in the entertainment industry who purposely limits his exposure on social media platforms to avoid the risk inherent in that exposure in the typical corporate culture, I found it interesting to read an article by that "guy most have never heard of" who has adopted a contrary position. And, by the number of replies in the thread, others found it interesting too.

    But, from your incredibly arrogant standpoint, we all mis-directed our time and energy. Perhaps you should write an article to help us focus on what you have decided are the more serious issues? Just a suggestion. I mean, it might be helpful for all of us if you would be so kind as to share your obviously superior wisdom and define for us what we should and should not focus upon.

    And, by the way, I'm willing to bet that that "guy most of us have never heard of" has reached a level of success that you will never achieve. Based on the honesty and openness displayed in his article, I'd also bet that he's achieved a level of happiness that you, sadly, will likely never achieve.

    Neither you nor Jad67 have the right to define for others when this discussion is done. Your personal lack of interest is totally irrelevant to everyone but you. If you are not interested in the level or volume of discourse, change the channel, my friend.

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    livingsd6122

    11/13/09 | Report as spam

    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    We live in a society where we have free speech. But there is a time and place for everything.You have to think about where your priorities are in a case like this especially as a leader. It is in bad taste to mix personal life with the business world in other words keep your private life to yourself. It is very disturbing when you have employees that look up to you and depend on your guidance and leadership. To see you indulging in questionable behavior could cause everyone under your management to look at you in a different light that is not so good.

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    HotelCA

    11/14/09 | Report as spam

    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Dear Chip,
    You being who you are is the reason thousands of people who work with/for you respect and, equally important, love you. You are true to yourself and you come accross like a normal and down to earth guy! Being a CEO is your day job and everyone earns the right to take a vacation from their day to day role, Which is what you did. As you well know, there will always be that conservative opinion that doesn't think your photos are appropriate; especially for a CEO but I would say, "I respect your opinion but I am who I am."

    I worked for you not too long ago and I was proud of belonging to a company that is different; one that welcomes all walks of life.

    Keeping in mind that some of those conservatives maybe owners and investors, which in return may cost you business; but, you created this company with a mission to celebrate the joy of life and make some money doing it; not the other way around.



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    neilbrowne

    11/17/09 | Report as spam

    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    I dom't even know you except I was rookie of the year at Swannyville. **** them if they can't take a joke and fire the rest. I alwayas loved the phrase "from Covey "firings will continue until morale improves" seriously own my company, and will burn until I die. by the way once posted always posted. Brownie

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    neilbrowne

    11/17/09 | Report as spam

    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    no

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    2TallTexan

    11/17/09 | Report as spam

    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    ZZZ ...

    I'll keep it real simple this time around, as you obviously didn't catch my drift the first time. Everyone has an opinion ... we should respect their opinion (didn't say agree with) regardless of our own. As far as my happiness goes; I have a wife of 39 years and 4 wonderful grandchildren who provide me with all the joy I need. And I get to keep my shirt on!

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    nettiehartsock

    11/17/09 | Report as spam

    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    What a fantastic dilemma. Chip you're doing great because you're so willing to share this and you're a very forward-thinking CEO.

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    coachlynn

    11/17/09 | Report as spam

    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    I love that you even have a burning man photo to post Chip!

    The framework of your company's social networking policy is
    laid out in your article. It's asking your employees to use
    common sense and also to use the heads that they have on
    their heads (which is probably the reason you hired them). I
    would hope at the HR level, that you would make clear with
    those who keep the seams from showing in your company,
    what your expectations are for employee posting and their
    distinctions.

    As to if a CEO should post these kind of photos in public, I
    would hope that you know and understand your constituents
    well enough to know what would work. I'm pretty sure with in
    a fairly short period of time you'd know if it was a bust or go!

    Now I'm curious to know more about you because of the
    photo and this article and will go find out more about you!

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    alialex

    11/18/09 | Report as spam

    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    Very interesting.

    For the people throwing around stereotypes, there are many, MANY people who attend Burning Man and don't do drugs. There's even a whole camp of sober, AA/NA/GA people!

    Many of us go to see the huge art, and to experience the community.

    I stayed at one of the JDV properties this month, and learning that the CEO has been to Burning Man just makes me think, "Aha! A contributing factor in the coolness of the hotel!"

    This article enhances my existing desire to give this hotel chain more business!

    Cheers, Chip. Burn On!
    ~"Ali Baba"

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    BJE

    11/20/09 | Report as spam

    Burning Man CEO

    Regardless of company size, Business is Business and Personal is Personal. It never works out to mix business with pleasure. Experientially, it creates far more negative misperceptions than positive impressions. Employees and clients will likely start taking liberties with you because of any sharing you do. Not all liberties are good and could in the end be financially costly. Also, there will be people like me who will be less likely to buy your book because of you attending Burning Man and flaunting it. When CEOs have millions and can write a book, they should be reinvesting in helping others, doing third world work or mentoring small business owners. You can get the same heat and high from other places. Its boils down to a matter of integrity. You can either put yourself on the plane with the Hilton aires, spoiled and consumers of life or something with more substance. Culture change requires great men, with great companies to set professional standards and respectable presences. And running around naked in the desert just cause in today's moraless world you can, doesn't show you've matured much since being fresh out of college.

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    sallysocean

    11/22/09 | Report as spam

    RE: A CEO?s Dilemma: Should I Take My Burning Man Pics off Facebook?

    I liked seeing you having fun, but maybe its time to put the blazer back on and get back to work. I can't get my reservation changes confirmed, lots of confusion in the system after many calls...


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