Would You Hire a Job Hopper?

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  fcologna05/21/08 Reported as spam
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  Long term appreciation is more valuable

  it depends for sure on the industry and on the specific curriculum, but sure it lacks commin?tment and accountability someone that changes a job every year

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  CC Holland05/21/08 Report as spam
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  Not necessarily...

  What about if the candidate had been downsized? Been through a buyout? Worked at a company that went under? Moved across the country with a spouse? Left a job to care for a sick relative? I think you need to be careful about making judgments about a resume with many jobs listed until you hear the circumstances behind it.

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  joe.kurtzke@...05/22/08 Report as spam
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  What about accomplishments?

  Yes, there are absolutely cases where a "job hopper" has milked the current position for everything possible and then moved on to the next job. You neglect, however, the case whereby the candidate came in and exceeded expectations, achieved results far more quickly than expected and became expendable because someone younger or cheaper could be brought in once the platform has been established. Obviously, this puts the onus on the potential employer to understand and explore precisely the chain of events, but you must also consider the results achieved, (and I mean verifiable results), cases where there was a bankruptcy, cases where there was a change in management or management philosophy, cases where there was a merger or acquisition and many other such situations rather than just a blanket approach that longevity equals productivity.

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  hedger06/03/08 Report as spam
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  Clearly

  People tend to forget, that sometimes you just have to go to work after a bum deal with a past employee. Anybody been in sales? I have been through mergers,bankruptcy,and downsizing. My last 4 positions on my resume, the company's are gone. It's really disheartening to not be selected for an interview because hiring managers think you are a risk. With the glut of resumes they receive, I am sure people get overlooked all the time. Unfortunately, there isn't a spot on the resume to "explain". There is a ton of "bad business" in the world, I have worked for companies that hire the last round of account managers just before they go belly up, as the last ditch effort to bring their company back around. Small and mid-size businesses are harder for potential employees to research, sometimes its just not available.
  Something to think about when overlooking job hoppers.

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  jpaccione05/22/08 Report as spam
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  Just to add to that...

  What about those who recognize the lack of growth opportunities, poor corporate culture, and the boss who is incompetent?

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  asander05/23/08 Report as spam
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  Too many bad choices reflect on the candidate's abilities

  If someone says they have done this for multiple short term jobs in a row you have to wonder about their ability (emotional intelligence) to investigate these issues through the job interview process

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  saritjaela06/06/08 Report as spam
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  Respectfully Disagree

  I respectfully disagree with the assumption that "job hopping" is a reflection of the applicant's lack of 'emotional intelligence" in their ability to "investigate issues in the job interview process." It's an offensive comment.
  
  In my own example I had to hop from one job because quite frankly I was lied to during the interview & after I was hired. I was promised benefits that never happened. And in the end had to leave the job because frankly the cost of insurance was eating into my net income more than promised.
  
  Bottom line, things happen that you cannot often document in a resume -- breach of contract on the employers' side, downsizing, inability for a business to attract growth (if you are dependent on that), etc. Breaks in employment are even harder to explain. For example, I was out of work for almost 2 years because of 9/11 and the lack of jobs in my sector.

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  dhung1@...05/22/08 Report as spam
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  Totally Agree

  Since graduating from college 6 years ago, I have worked for 4 different companies (Bank One, MCI, Peoples Energy, and my current company). I left Bank One, MCI, and Peoples Energy not because I was doing a bad job but because I feel I was in a jeopardize position due to acquisitions. Today, I can honestly say I have made the right move. Each position that I've held in the past taught me something new and allow me to bring fresh ideas to my new job.

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  baily29905/22/08 Report as spam
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  Frequent Job Hopping Can't be Good.

  No way a logical employer would pick Candidate B if all other things are equal. The article states "Candidate B has equally strong credentials but has held six jobs in the last six years".
  
  This is the primary reason for extremely bad service in just every industry. The focus is on self fulfillment, not loyalty. FREQUENT job hopping cannot be good for an organization.

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  Peter Dilger05/23/08 Report as spam
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  unbelievable bad luck

  What 6 times in 6 years
  
  Besides the basis of the argument is flawed
  
  You start with a statement that they are equally strong candidtares in the eyes of most employers they are NOT.
  
  One has strong credentials gained in solid employment the other job hops they are not equal - I doubt that with most employers that they would be in the final two even if there were only two applicants

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  edwindt05/22/08 Report as spam
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  healthcare lifer

  You must be in healthcare too

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  elmi@...05/22/08 Report as spam
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  It depends

  on the role and type of experience the candidate sells and offer - for instance, a candidate that has not yet live through a multi-year project lifecycle may not be a suitable candidate if you are hiring for a multi-year project; or a candidate who only walks in to do the grandour planning and strategizing without living with it for a while may not have the experience for leading a transformation.

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  bobsharak05/21/08 Report as spam
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  RE: Would You Hire a Job Hopper?

  You need to look into the specifics behind the frequent changes - but one year with each employer is not enough time to show meaningful success. Besides, the employee will focus on short term resume building rather than her decisions??? long term impact. And who wants the time and expense of hiring for that position in another 12-18 months? For many positions you'll most likely get a better payback with the stayer.

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  MollySoberg05/22/08 Report as spam
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  building resume vs. building success

  Perhaps the job-hopper is not focused on resume building, but rather focused on his/her on-the-job success. If the employee is not given the opportunity to succeed, they will continue to search for those opportunities elsewhere.
  
  Today's employee want more from their job than a paycheck. They want to contribute, have a voice, and decision-making authority within their own job. The opportunity lies in providing a work environment where employees are engaged, this will interrupt the job hopping cycle and allow for employees and employers to have long term success.

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  edwindt05/22/08 Report as spam
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  Now...

  This is the truth for me. I agree with you totally.

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  DerekIrvine05/22/08 Report as spam
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  Recognize Employees to Engage and Retain Them

  I agree. Employees today expect more involvement than being a hamster in the wheel. And their efforts should be recognized and rewarded. But if you expect to retain employees (and save on recruiting and training costs), then you better recognize their efforts in a frequent, timely and meaningful way. More here on engaging employees: http://globoforce.blogspot.com/2008/04/meet-ceo-chief-engagement-officer.html and here on recognizing them: http://globoforce.blogspot.com/search/label/strategic%20recognition.

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  bobsharak05/23/08 Report as spam
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  Reply to Molly

  I agree with your post ? to a point ? and said the resume needs more exploration. HOWEVER, six in six suggests the applicant isn?t serious about your company - or any other. After six in six, perhaps the problem?s with the applicant and not the employers or the job. One needs to ask why they burned through six jobs and still didn't find satisfaction for more than one year. Perhaps a little introspection is in order?

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  gearjamr05/23/08 Report as spam
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  fully agree

  I have been there(job hopper)finaly got fed up with employers taking my skills for granted and started my own business.

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  evnucci@...05/22/08 Report as spam
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  RE: Would You Hire a Job Hopper?

  CC Holland is a journalist, not an executive or a manager...so what do she know about hiring? How CC ever run a company?
  
  Has CC ever run two or three companies? CC has interviewed people...
  
  But CC doesn't know what she talking about.

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  CC Holland05/22/08 Report as spam
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  Yep, I have been a manager too

  True, I've never run a company. But while I may be a journalist, if you read my bio you'll see that I've sat on the executive side of the desk for quite a chunk of my career.
  
  I've been a managing editor at a number of high-profile companies and publications; part of the gig is always hiring editors. I've done more than my share of hiring and, unfortunately, firing. I've seen hundreds of resumes in my time.
  
  So trust me, I'm not just whistling Dixie here when I offer my opinion. And I do so know what I'm talking about.

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  tmg196305/22/08 Report as spam
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  RE: Would You Hire a Job Hopper?

  Based on the current economy, those of us don't have the opportunity to stay at one place very long... with cut backs, layoffs and salary and benefit cuts... you have to do what is best for your family.

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  sean.oconnor@...05/22/08 Report as spam
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  RE: Would You Hire a Job Hopper?

  absolutely not, it speaks volumes about the persons ability to cope with complex scenarios and how they work or don't work with others. my favorite is when you read a resume where according to the candidate they "turned the business around" in 8 months...yeah right!

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  mikekd05/25/08 Report as spam
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  been there

  Whoa! That's a blanket statement that may have no merit. I've been there. Left the first job for full time MBA, the second went belly up, the third and fourth were project-only consulting (everyone let go during early 90's recession), next company went belly up (telecomm bust), then a bad health accident means letting me go even though they loved me there! And by the way, I HAVE turned around a small plant in months, after it lost money for 8 years the corp owned it.

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  commentator8805/22/08 Report as spam
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  loyalty - growth

  Loyalty to a company went out of vogue when companies started trimming their staffs every 3-5 years for "economic" reasons. Who wants to stay in the same job/company for 15 yrs to be "downsized"?
  
  Do you as an employer want someone who has been in the same job for multiple years ... is stability more important than growth with the job? If so, do you want a worker who hasn't learn a thing in 5 yrs, and stay with the same company/job so they don't have to learn a thing for the next 5 yrs? Or would you prefer someone who is learning and growing faster than the company and goes on to another company who can support that growth and benefit from that super/over-achiever?
  
  I want to stay in the same job/company and have been trying for the last 5 yrs to do that. I've 2 job changes in the last 5 yrs, does that make me a job hopper? I've gotten a promotion with each of the job change ... does that make me less loyal? Should I have stayed in the same position for the last 5 years and be downsized in another 2 when the company decides I am too expensive for the work I do?
  
  The job market has changed... companies can't ask for loyalty that they are not willing/able to return that same requirement.

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  livethakly05/22/08 Report as spam
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  Here here

  For most companies, employees are not assets, but expenditures and easily removed from the equation as the bottom line dictates. There is no such thing as company loyalty any more. That went out years ago.
  
  As companies layoff more and more employees every year and hire fewer people to do the jobs of many, the smart people will always have their eyes on what is out there... because trust me, if the company gets acquired, downsized or a new CEO comes on board, all bets are off for them anyway. No matter how long they have been around.
  
  ...or they are just too lazy or scared to challenge themselves to find the 'right' company that really does care about it's employees and not just do lip service.

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  proch04@...05/22/08 Report as spam
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  RE: Would You Hire a Job Hopper?

  Off course, I'd hire a Job Hopper. I myself have been one, and I don't think that I hopped fast enough. In my case, job hopping has giving me the opportunity to have a vast knowledge about various industries markets; thus helping me bring that new attitude/think outside of the box in every new company that I hopped on and leveraging knowledge that I've acquired. Quite frankly, life is too short to work for a company for 6 six years and get boxed in.
  Getting out there and taking on new challenges every 2-3 years is the right thing to do for personal development and being able to acquire knowledge about a new market and even pick up a skill or two along the way.

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  akoloski05/22/08 Report as spam
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  RE: Are you serious?

  You realize the US Dept of labor is using Johnny Fastfood in compiling that statistic? Those numbers are WAAAAY off for the people that read B-NET. Know your readers before you write something lazy and opinionated.

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  edwindt05/22/08 Report as spam
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  Are you stupid or just got your head up your corporate behind

  This is a very relevant issue and to call someone lazy is stupid on your part a35*9)$

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  CC Holland05/22/08 Report as spam
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  Thanks for the defense!

  Hey, thanks for leaping to my defense.

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  CC Holland05/22/08 Report as spam
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  Opinionated? Yes. Lazy? No.

  Think those stats don't apply to BNet readers? Just take a minute to read through some of these posts. Plenty of hoppers here...and by definition, they're BNet readers.

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  gearjamr05/23/08 Report as spam
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  are you serious reply

  tellem brother the government is probably the worst place to take stat's from they always make things read to thier benefit and are lazy ,do the least work to get even that accomplished.Come to work collect thier government pay and bennie's and go home ,do just enough so you can say your doing your job.If there was ever a place for more accountability its at the government level,alot of wasted tax payer dollars involved there.

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  JacobsAllison05/22/08 Report as spam
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  RE: Would You Hire a Job Hopper?

  I'm in advertising and it is sometimes necessary to move around in order to get a) promoted and b) experience within different industries. I don't think you can hold 'job hopping' against someone just from the resume.
  
  I think it would come down to references and the interview. Did they show up late? Prepared? Did they have insightful questions? Was the person able to offer valuable experiences and thoughtful answers to your questions? Maybe job hopping has exposed this person to different management, organizational and communication styles - which has ultimately strengthened their own qualifications...
  
  Just something to think about since I've been to 4 agencies in 8 years and truly feel that I have learned at each one and applied my experience to my current position, making me more effective at my job now.

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  lisamcpa05/22/08 Report as spam
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  keeping today's employee motivated to stay

  I agree with the article because recently, I had to change jobs. At age 35, and working in public accounting firms for nearly 5 years only (in tax), I felt demotivated by the churn and burn mentality. it's outdated, and I wanted to work for an employer who can teach me something new and that wasn;t my current employer. The whole idea of accounting firms preaching work-life balance is BS, and I learned that quickly no matter what firm you work for. Having only been at my current job for 11 months (i was at a BIG4 firm for three years and my previous employer to that for almost 5 years), I am leaving to take a job at a fortune 500 company - because someone at a client who works with me far more than anyone at the firm ever did (side by side, 6 months i worked with this person), he actually made note of my strengths and when he moved on, he wanted to take me with him.
  
  That's the kind of opportunity that causes the "healthy" job hopping - the kind where you get exposed to working with different people in a client based environment, who recognize your strengths and recruit you because of them!

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  pegdavis05/22/08 Report as spam
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  The most important thing: Find out why

  Look at the whole resume and the whole person. I have spent a long time at employers (13 years, 6 years), and short times (9-11 months), too. Why the short terms? Short Job 1: I moved closer to home to help look after my elderly and unwell parents. Short Job 2: I moved even closer, and took the first job I could (which gave me some great experience, but I could not make ends meet). Short Job 3: Paid the bills, but not what I want to do for the rest of my life. Parents are now stable, so I'm ready to move on to a hopefully more stable time in my life as well. Now I'm moving on to a dream job where I will put ALL of my experience to work for a very savvy major corporation. P.S. The trick is for employees to clearly explain the "ADD" looking period when they write their cover letter.

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  Melpo05/22/08 Report as spam
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  RE: Would You Hire a Job Hopper?

  CC,
  
  While your example is a little extreme, it does raise an interesting debate.
  
  A different job every year for six years raises a big red flag when I review a resume. However, a different job every two to three years can be a plus.
  
  Hopefully, they've gathered best practices from a variety of companies and can bring fresh ideas into my organization. Staying too long in any one role or organization can demonstrate complacency. I want people who are hungry for achievement.
  
  Of course, I would always look at the details of the switch. Were the roles of increasing responsibility, or an opportunity to build new skills, or were they simply lateral moves that indicated a "grass is always greener" mindset?
  
  I've spent 20+ years in technology marketing so perhaps my industry is a little different than others.

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  Edsahara05/22/08 Report as spam
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  I'd have serious doubts

  Six jobs in 6 years? If I hired the person would they even stop looking while they were working for me? Why make the investment in training with this person?

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  edwindt05/22/08 Report as spam
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  RE: Would You Hire a Job Hopper?

  It is not that I am a job hopper just had a couple of very negative situations. But in the healthcare industry, job hopping is so frowned upon because one hardly finds an open mind in healthcare...too conservative.

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  carhughes05/22/08 Report as spam
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  RE: Would You Hire a Job Hopper?

  Most definitely -- not! As an employer, i don't have time to deal with prospective employees that are always on the hunt looking for greener pastures. One of the things I look for is stability at with a candidate's previous employers. This has served me well in the past and I will continue to have a red flag with resumes where the job-hopping is glaringly obvious.

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  ceasertl05/22/08 Report as spam
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  RE: Would You Hire a Job Hopper?

  I am what people would consider to be a job hopper. I am a retired Marine who has served over 20 years, but my first job only allowed me to make ends meet, so I hopped to another location that payed better and was closer to home. I want to move again because I want to assume more responsibility and be a manager.

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  IamRascal05/22/08 Report as spam
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  It imperative in IT

  I work in IT as a Web Developer. When your starting off I think its imperative to job hop. There are so many ways to do SW Development and doing so makes you much more well rounded. Our industry has reached a point where you have to move for promotions I'm at my 3rd company since graduating in 2004. The industry moves so fast and if you aren't allowed to use new technologies your skill stagnate and you fall off the face of the earth.
  
  The first and current jobs tried to appease me with "advancement opportunities". When companies hand out 3% raises year after year, its not hard to understand why IT professionals move around, were in demand and theres always someone out there willing to higher you at a higher level and more pay. Now if I was happy at my first or current job I would stay despite those things but the extraneous BS politics at each aren't going to keep me here. My second job hope was for family reasons.

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  leojin05/22/08 Report as spam
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  RE: Would You Hire a Job Hopper?

  Job hopper has more exposure and therefore more experience than those that live within their comfort zone.
  
  However, You'll have to gauge their previous performance...are they hopping because of more opportunity or they couldn't function well on their previous job...as a recruiter you have the innate ability to spot a talent who's a hopper because of inability to face and deal with challenges as oppose to hopping because they cannot be contained in a box, they are restless unless they go up in ranks and responsibility, they keep looking for more challenges.
  
  I will hire a candidate on the basis of performance, credentials and character.
  
  J.Inocencio

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  greg195105/22/08 Report as spam
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  RE: Would You Hire a Job Hopper?

  I have been a job hopper. Some of my past employers not only became friends and mentors, they also have hired me as a consultant. Others became angry that I couldn't maintain a 150% output after a couple years. I can not give that kind of passion without burning up and I also can not understand how an employer can be angry with someone who assisted in huge production jumps in their businesses sometimes bringing their business into 100% to 300% increases during that time. Maybe the greed factor? No, the employer who understands what he/she is getting, who understands and looks for that kind of driven personality, then releases gracefully,,,,tends to reap gargantuan benefits.

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  kmpiq05/22/08 Report as spam
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  RE: Would You Hire a Job Hopper?

  AMEN! I'm on job #4 in the past 2 years and I am so tired of hearing "you sure do change jobs a lot!" The fact is, I have skills that are in high demand and I refuse to be unhappy, stifled, or underutilized. Though I do my best due diligence before I join a company, I have been surprised and disappointed by each, but have still left on good terms. Isn't that what is really important - did the candidate do a good job and leave on a positive, or at least professional, note?

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  oakye05/22/08 Report as spam
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  who is the "average"?

  Great article and great discussion! I forwarded this to a friend who was a notorious job hopper before b-school straightened him out (<-- that's our joke to him). He had this interesting observation to make:
  
  "CC's stat is as follows: "average american has 10 jobs from 18-38... so one every other year"
  
  except! average american does not have a degree... average american does not have a 'career'... average american makes less than 50k per year, so it's not a major detriment to a company to replace him/her... if I am paying someone close to or above six figures, they better damn well be far above 'average' american and I want someone who will help me get to my goals - and if they are short term goals, okay i will hire a hopper, if they are long term goals, then i'd think twice.
  
  overall, i think in tech it is expected, in industry it's anathema, in anything investing-related, fuhgeddaboutit - you'll never get hired."
  
  Thoughts?

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  inteloquence05/22/08 Report as spam
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  RE: Would You Hire a Job Hopper?

  The job I have now is the only one I've had longer than 3 years, and that's only because I now work with my husband. Job hopping (though you call it that, I wouldn't) during the past two decades of my employment has given me the job skills to do almost anything at this point. I've taught school, I've been a public speaker, I've been on the camera and behind the camera, I can manage an office, a staff, accounts, bookkeeping and I serve a mean Long Island iced tea with a smile while I sing you a torch song and sew you a costume. I've seen it all and done most of it, which means I also know how to deal with angry customers, collectors, solicitors and any other unwanted riffraff one encounters during the work day.
  
  Unfortunately I can't say that about many people I interview who have been stuck in the same thankless, dead end job doing as little as possible for the last half a dozen years or more. I'll take a job hopper any day as long as they can display the skills they claim they've learned in their quest for the perfect job.
  
  Oh, and I also know how to test for those things. So before you jump to conclusions and condemn those of us who actually want more out of a job than a paycheck and aren't afraid to look for it, you might want to take a good, hard look at what the real problem is, which is usually sloppy hiring practices.

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  Peter Dilger05/22/08 Report as spam
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  RE: Would You Hire a Job Hopper?

  It takes at least 6 months to have a new joiner start to contribute to their full potential maybe even longer - so I have to pay to recruit, pay to train, bear the costs of underproducing and then let them go - I dont think so
  
  In many roles such as sales they leave before the lack of business shows up their incompetence in the role
  
  Peter Dilger

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  pmb4pmb405/22/08 Report as spam
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  RE: Would You Hire a Job Hopper?

  There's several considerations.
  
  The upside to the non-hopper is for the employer who needs a long term commitment in a maintenance environment. You need someone with staying power because they literally inherit the creative works of several people, and that requires a considerable investment of time on a large system to know both the code and the general processes of an organization. Someone should have a proven track record of commitment.
  
  On the other hand, those who prefer to always do new development should keep moving to stay up on trends. When hiring for new development, that is an important consideration too.
  
  Pat Bailey, Calvin College
  pmb4@calvin.edu

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  stevenchao05/22/08 Report as spam
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  HANDS DOWN!!! EASY Decision

  What a way to phish.... This post is so pro Employee that it is not even funny. From an employer perspective =>
  
  There is never 2 candidate of equal.
  a. personality of the candidate fit into your team is never mentioned, becuase no one is the same.
  b. No candidate reacts the same under interview.
  c. What is the job (secretary, software programing, HR...?)
  d. What is your budget, and what are they asking? The same? What are their attachements?
  
  Every employee needs training. Every employee needs to adapt to the company culture. If they can not hack it... let them go... They are not the people you need to build your team aruond. If your project last longer than a year, then you'll be screwed.
  
  From my experience, employees takes a min of 3-6 month to adapt to the surrounding and their resources. They will require a little longer to understand the politics. Those who argue are BS themselves, because politics are everywhere. If you or I can't hack the politics, then we'll move on.
  
  So if I am paying someone $20/hr for 6 month for training, and I am getting 60% efficiency during that time... How in the world am I going to recoup my investment (including time, money, resource which includes the whole team that provided their resources).
  
  So as a risk manager/employeer, you tell me why I should risk the well being of others for YOU. Oh, most the posts I see here is all about I, I, I..... Where is the team? If you don't respect a team, why would you expect the team to treat you any different?
  
  GROW UP, WHINNERS...

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  jlmanda05/22/08 Report as spam
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  But would they even get to inerview?

  It seems that the two sides to this debate depend very much on personal experience.
  Those who have held a number of positions don't see a problem with hiring someone that has been a job hopper. (Like hiring like!)
  On the other side those preferring a more stable employment history seem to be those that are in a managerial position and have had experience in recruiting staff. Again like hiring like.
  
  Another issue is, I doubt that a job hopper would make it to the interview stage. Only in areas where the number of applicants is low i.e areas of skills shortage would a job hopper's application make it to the interview. If a job had a pile of applicants, they would probably be weeded out by someone going through the pile of applications.

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  algorham05/24/08 Report as spam
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  I agree 110% Stephen

  If an employer is considering hiring someone who has had six jobs in six years, then I have to assume that the position in question is conducive to the revolving door syndrome (high turnover). If that's a good assumption, then maybe a consultant is needed not an employee.

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  E-mil05/22/08 Report as spam
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  RE: Would You Hire a Job Hopper?

  I would, without a doubt, hire a job hopper. I, myself, may be labeled a job hopper. I have yet to find a "job" that gives me the ability to release my creative juices. It has taken me a long time to find the things that would help me best contribute to society. So, I have teamed up with my best bud to get the wheels turning on a venture that allows the freedom to build something special. Just as any business should be looking for new ways to cut costs and increase revenue, any human should be looking for ways to better themselves and better their quality of life.
  
  Some adults have not yet been diagnosed with ADHD or other conditions. These are also huge factors in jumping around. Boredom ensues and one must find something new to keep them sane.

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  Peter Dilger05/22/08 Report as spam
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  RE: Would You Hire a Job Hopper?

  Funny how the people who are self proclaimed job hoppers think it is a good idea
  
  I agree with a previous contributor this is about hiring not looking for a job - very much presented from the point of view of the job seeker - well the hirer has rights and wants as well so have the colleagues who are left to cope when the job hopper leaves
  
  Please train me - add to my skills - add to my experience and then by the way I intend to leave

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  JoeXSchmoe05/22/08 Report as spam
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  RE: Would You Hire a Job Hopper?

  In some industries, the only way to get a decent raise is to job-hop.

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  keith@...05/22/08 Report as spam
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  RE: Would You Hire a Job Hopper?

  While I don't exactly meet the job hopper status, I have the other problem.
  Too many years of working for myself, although always on long projects excludes me for many roles, even at senior levels, which is my focus.
  
  Some people, myself included, get bored easily with jobs and so moving from company to company(as long as it's upward in some way) is fine.

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  jheckbert@...05/22/08 Report as spam
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  Would you work for a company ....

  with a long history of cyclical layoffs?
  
  with a history of inconsistent management reporting?
  
  with a track record of mistreating their employees?
  
  It never ceases to amaze that companies want the loyalty they are unable or unwilling to provide to an employee.
  
  Frankly I'm not sure I'd want to work for a company who looked only at the superficial stuff on a resume. It seems they would lack the commitment to weather a storm together.
  
  Just my two cents.
  
  John

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  Peter Dilger05/22/08 Report as spam
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  Would you employ a person ....

  with a long history of cyclical job hoppiong?
  
  with a history of inconsistent perfomance?
  
  with a track record of abandoning employers and colleagues?
  
  It never ceases to amaze that people want the loyalty they are unable or unwilling to provide to an employer.
  
  Frankly I'm not sure I'd want to employ a person who looked only for raises, moving upwards and short term self interest. It seems they would lack the commitment to weather a storm together.
  
  Just my two cents.

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  stevenchao05/27/08 Report as spam
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  tou-che

  tou-che

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  thrashjt05/22/08 Report as spam
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  Take control of your career

  After relocating to a new city, fifteen years later and seven different jobs, job hopping worked well for me. Infact, my last two position were with prior firms and I have received letters from past employers to reconsider returning back. Not to mention picking up new skills and most importantly, meeting new professionals. Employment is at will for employers as well as employees. Career sucess depends on how much you enjoy what you do and how profitable are you as a employee. The days of driving a desk for twenty years and collecting a gold wathced are gone.

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  mthrash05/22/08 Report as spam
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  The Wartless Hopper...

  Don't be fooled some Hoppers don't warts.
  
  I graduated 10 years ago. My first job was a dead end position. My second job was a wonderful opportunity that led me into a field where I could have stayed until I retired. I was relocated and after three years of employment, the plants I was working with were sold. My second job was great. I remained in the same field. I could have stayed but I was being held back. I accepted an offer after three years of employment. My third job was great. My boss was a wonderful mentor but after nine months I had to move on or risk not having a job due to the company being sold. My fourth job was okay but I felt I was forced to take it. The area I was hired into had a high turnover rate and the employees were wild. Then I was offered a wonderful opportunity that refused to let me say no.
  
  My concerns now...the position I am in is newly created and is not utilizing my potential. Basically I am a high paid secretary. What should I do? I will wait until the job scope has fully developed. Again it is a great company.
  
  I have wonderful references from my bosses. I come to work early and leave late. I work at home. My motto is where there's a will there's a way.
  
  I have achieved what was expected from me plus some. I have accumulated work and cultural experiences. I have tripled my salary since graduation.
  
  In this day and age I would say the usage of the word Hopper is not accurate. We are survivors.

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  David 4205/22/08 Report as spam
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  RE: Would You Hire a Job Hopper?

  Too much training and investment in people to waste it on a job hopper. I look for more stability when I hire.

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  romaneagle@...05/22/08 Report as spam
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  Job Hopping = Strength

  Not all job training and investments come from traditional classes and
  employer-driven programs. In fact, some of the greatest assets a job hopper
  can bring are real world experiences and a way to efficiently bring things
  together by seeing the bigger picture.
  
  Job hoppers bring a lot to the table.

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  romaneagle@...05/22/08 Report as spam
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  Retain Job Hoppers

  If you want to keep a job hopper in the same company for years and years, treat
  him/her well. Recognize achievements and encourage participation.
  
  Job hoppers are natural self-starters. They simply want to sink their teeth into
  projects and take a sense of ownership in it.

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  greatarm05/22/08 Report as spam
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  I am a job hopper but within one organisation

  Labelling someone a job hopper and suggesting they might not be a good employee because they move from one organisation to another isn't something I would do as a manager. I have been a job hopper within the organisation I work for for 18 years. I am no slouch and find that after a couple of years I have outgrown the position I am in and need a new challenge. I wouldn't suggest all job hoppers are the same but I would want to talk to someone before making a decision about them. I think I am a fairly average sort of Manager and if a few years is my limit before boredom sets in and a new challenge is required how would it be sor someone who was above average surely they would reach the point of requiring new challenges long before me. Go the career hopper they are likely to have new ideas and motivate the others in your organisation to want to move forward rather than tread water.

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  Happy Dog05/22/08 Report as spam
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  RE: Would You Hire a Job Hopper?

  There are complex reasons why workers (especially technology workers) move around the pond for a better "pad". Oftentimes companies hire workers for specific projects or development strategies yet they just get put on hold or cancelled altogether. This is frustrating for the technical mind and it isn't A.D.D..
  Great workers need challenge and a stagnant work environment is debilitating to those wanting to GROW. Contract workers are often happier than those who are full time employees because they can see the proverbial "light at the end of the tunnel!.

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  Talent Talk05/22/08 Report as spam
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  cdipsingh05/22/08 Report as spam
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  RE: Would You Hire a Job Hopper?

  I couldnt agree more, thanks for the defence!!!

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  ktshiam05/22/08 Report as spam
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  RE: Would You Hire a Job Hopper?

  I laugh at the tradditional ways of hiring, my own experience tells me that there's more to a person than what a resume can ever tell you. I was a major retail manager for over 6 years and because of my approach, I was very successful in hiring process. It's a business of people and not too many hiring Mgrs treat it as such.
  K-Thomas

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  Proliberate05/22/08 Report as spam
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  8 fired in 8 minutes

  My company???s CEO boasts about firing people. He has fired 8 people @ 8 mins. So you can imagine the company culture and what not???I am not saying that he took a wrong decision, what I am saying is that there is ZERO employer ??? employee loyalty left in today???s time.
  
  It depends on you, what do you want? How fast do you want it? What are you willing to risk?
  
  From my personal experience, I have changed 3 companies in my past 6 years and to be honest, every time I left, I moved for career growth reasons and I have got like 75% compensation growth and almost 100% plus responsibility growth. I have always over achieved my targets and shown results which people just watch in surprise with their jaws dropped.
  
  I don???t think there should be any criterion like multiple job hops make you a bad candidate. I have myself hired people with multiple job hops and they have done fantastic jobs for me.

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  romemele05/22/08 Report as spam
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  RE: Would You Hire a Job Hopper?

  Hi,
  this was an excellent apt article. I liked it !!!
  
  Cheers to the hoppers !
  
  Regards

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  Silverwood505/22/08 Report as spam
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  RE: Would You Hire a Job Hopper?

  In today's day and age, with rising inflation rates, fuel prices, food prices, the climbing price of houses and rental (especially in SA) it is difficult for a company to keep up with the increases in the cost of living when it comes to increasing salaries... for this reason, employees look elsewhere, hoping to increase their income by 15 to 20%, instead of the annual 6 to 8% offered by their employer.
  
  You can spend 8 years at a company increasing your salary by 7% per annum (if promotion is not an option) or you can jump jobs 7 times and increase it by 15% each time... which one makes more sense?

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  tesvencorp@...05/22/08 Report as spam
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  RE: Would You Hire a Job Hopper?

  Job Hopping can indicate the hopper's ability to conquer situations quickly and satify his employer completely so that the both of them are satisfied to allow the move.
  That's been my experience -- deliver above and beyond, years beyond, what the employer sought before bringing me in and move on, better able to deliver even more the next time.

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  ttontti05/23/08 Report as spam
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  Mixed requirements

  I think that job hopping is natural consequence when employment contracts are more usually temporary fixed periods contracts. Also It's tough to gain versatile working experience from different jobs and working environments, which is also highly valued, if having a fragmented CV is not allowed.

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  Ochlab05/23/08 Report as spam
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  RE: Would You Hire a Job Hopper?

  Job hopping is no strength. It shows an unsatisfied staff in search of the "satisfactory" job, which is an illusion.

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  Peter Dilger05/23/08 Report as spam
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  RE: Would You Hire a Job Hopper?

  The article was aimed at employers in an attempt to encourage the idea that employing job hoppers has merit
  
  The majority of the comments are in fact from employees supporting, for what ever reason, job hopping. The few employers who have replied are overwhelmingly stating that they see job hopping as a negative on a cv.
  
  Therefore the people who the article was aimed at converting seem to be saying a resounding NO and the fact that people who already job hop feel its ok have not convinced the employers - the person in the position to say yes or no - of the validity of their lifestyle argument.
  
  I guess that the job hoppers will continue to defend or present their argum,ents but if the majority of the support they get is from fellow hopper not employers its fuitile. By the way the job market will become significantly tighter over the next year as economies tighten their belts.
  
  Many of the hoppers appear to come from IT or "creative" industries - these are already experiencing job hopping of a different nature - Microsoft estimate that 200,000 IT jobs will go off shore to Chindia this year - and if employees feel its ok to job hop do nor be suprised when employers take the same view
  
  You have to give loyalty effort commitment etc in order to receive the same

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  mlsc197405/23/08 Report as spam
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  Employers too little too late

  Job hopping has enabled me to get loads of experience around the world, UK, EU and Australia. Something unachievable within 99% of companies, especially when young and starting out. Oneday I will probably stay put, and when that happens it will be great for the employer. I find a lot of people who are in a single company for 10 years plus, and often they have become institutionalised and whilst focused on the company they often lack perspective and are waiting for the gold watch and watching the stock they have options on....Job Hoppers can bring skills like a consultant would but at a lower price.

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  robert.kowalke@...05/23/08 Report as spam
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  Maybe - maybe not.

  Yeppers I'd hire a job hopper sometimes and sometimes not.
  It just depends on the job for which I'm hiring.
  If it costs so much to hire then do I really want to be spending that much money and engaging in that much hassle every year or would I like more stability?
  Again depends on the job.
  Neither applicant is bad, it's just a decision between the job and the hopper.

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  rexhumphries05/23/08 Report as spam
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  Job Hopper Status- more to it

  Great topic! I propose for the HR industry to embrace a third party system whereby candidates can become certified as non-traditional hoppers (the good kind) based on generally accepted industry standards (to be set up). This could lessen the risk of a missed opportunity for HR, while allowing those of us who have legitimate stories to get passed the initial screening process. Thoughts?

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  eliot_axelrod@...05/23/08 Report as spam
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  RE: Would You Hire a Job Hopper?

  I think the term Job Hopper lumps together a lot of different categories. By the way most of those categories are not great.
  
  Older more highly paid workers now a days are more likely to be cut during downturns. It's pretty common to see someone who's been through several companies over the last 10 years because they've been downsized out of multiple companies.
  
  ADD career people - there are people who just don't have an attention span of over 18 months. Sometimes they are very high performance people, sometimes, they're just uneasy sitting in the same chair. That's a judgment call.
  
  Employees with a tough life situation - Maybe they've have a family member with a chronic illness, maybe they're suffering from depression, or going through a tough relationship. Most companies feel it's not their problem.

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  kmcgaw@...05/23/08 Report as spam
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  RE: Would You Hire a Job Hopper?

  I'd love to see a survey about how many managers would hire someone that has recently been self-employed and is re-entering the work force.

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  stevenchao05/27/08 Report as spam
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  Different analysis, not a hopper

  changing from self-employeed to being employeed is completely different. I would not even hesitiate to bring the past self-employeed in for interview. In most of our scoring system, he or she would automatically be rated higher.
  
  A self-employeed person in my opinion would had to endure much more storm, situations that never cross most employees. He or she would have seen things from both sides to perform quick SWOT analysis on the fly. EVEN if he or she failed in their previous experiences.
  
  AGAIN, this is far different from hopper though....
  
  Peace,

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  AvV HEA05/23/08 Report as spam
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  RE: Would You Hire a Job Hopper?

  Experience vs institutionalization is the key. I have my own aerospace company after about 30 years of moving through 8 leadership and sr leadership positions. My experience was and alway is a driver in getting things done right, the first time and keeping results on track ... execute efficiently. Last thing I want on our team is a hide-bound, baggage toting institutional non-thinking person. There is enough of that at Boeing, Airbus, Honeywell, Rockwell Collins, Thales, UTC ... need I go on?! Garmin proved the business model in our industry. You cannot think outside the box unless you have seen a lot of boxes!

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  Vallah05/23/08 Report as spam
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  Job hoppers are doers and innovators

  I agree with you. Staying in one place for too long begins to wear on a person's ability to think creatively and intuitively. I firmly believe that if a job is worth doing, it's worth doing well and it's also worth improving on when the time is right. Time moves on whether we're ready for it or not and if we don't move with it we'll get left behind and forgotten.

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  stevenchao05/27/08 Report as spam
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  REDUCING to a simpler form: prostitution or one nighter

  How is this your 8 different jobs in 30 years (may be within a handful of employers - due to aerospace consolidation and vast dept) equate to 6 different jobs in 6 years????
  
  How will this job hopper gain experience when he or she is constantly shopping for the next job + trying to fit into the surrounding + get comfortable with job requirements + get acquianted with boss and co-workers? When did you start to deliver, the next day on the job??? PLEASE.
  
  Changing jobs or careers are normal, but to sit here and read the BS that people are trying to convince themselves are utterly rediculous.
  
  How long is the hiring process for a decent job including multiple interview? => 4 weeks at the very least.
  How long are job searches => 4 weeks at very least.
  How long are your notices => 2 weeks at very least.
  How long are down time in between job end and start of job search => 1 week
  How much vacation + sickdays + normal daysoff => 3 weeks
  TOTAL NON WORKING TIME FOR PEOPLE IN TRANSISTION: 14 weeks out of 52 weeks in a year (about 25%).
  
  Most of us don't actively look for partners who have had 6 different partners during the past 6 years (unless we are looking for experience). So how is it different here in this case. As manager or bosses, we want to maximize our resources while minimizing our risks. How do you convince yourself to going with someone who transistions every 12 months. What kind of great company responsibilities are you going to entrust with this person? BE HONEST AND BE HONEST with the hoppers. We hire hoppers because we want A particular thing. When we get it, many of us are fully content. Most of the time, the hopper know that their job is done. So everyone move on. MUCH LIKE A ONE NIGHTER.
  
  The problem usually occurs when the ONE-NIGHTER (both parties)
  1) withold(s) critical experience or delivery of goods
  2) want(s) more than the original agreeemnet entails
  
  So sorry, your avg of 4 year per position does not qualify you as a hopper. In fact, I would expect that of you as your boss. A trait of consistant increase in responsibility, leadership and knowledge.

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  faheem205/23/08 Report as spam
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  RE: Would You Hire a Job Hopper?

  agree with the new order and I'm in it.

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  alroyraj@...05/24/08 Report as spam
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  RE: Would You Hire a Job Hopper?

  Job Hopping is symptomatic of the poor incentives as well poor career advancement/growth opportunities offered by companies which is often set in stone whilst joining. This is often true in India based companies where HR is outsourced rather than considered strategic as it is abroad. It has yet to evolve. Today moreover there is a shortage of skilled professionals, hence the varied choice.

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  stevenchao05/27/08 Report as spam
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  Put up your money then

  What a bunch of crock!!! Put up you money and operate on a consistent annual increase of labor cost of 15% or higher so that you can compete. When you can show me that model works cosnistently, (except the staffing industry) then you have earned the right to whine.
  
  So pony up... setup your company who caters to hoppers... Let's see how consistent your comapny can stick to its mission and deliveries to it investors. Oh, I would love to be there when you announce to your investors that your goal is to hire hoppers, because they tend to be more valuable to their company's mission.
  
  hahahahahah....

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  Mercytown05/25/08 Report as spam
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  Stereotyping by the employer

  It all boils down to how much time and effort the employer takes to identify a good hire. Most believe in their prescient ability to quickly 'sizeup' someone with one single look, not knowing that the deeply rooted bias, myopic and lack of critical thinking that is brought into an important decision.
  
  But to say that would be even be too much, most emplyers don't even bother to put in so much effort at all.

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  Peter Dilger05/29/08 Report as spam
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  Who is stereotyping whom??

  What an incredible generalisation stating that most employers do not put in any effort
  Logic and experience tend to disprove this stereotyping of employers
  Logic ? because it is in the employer?s self interest to hire wisely, to fill a post with the most able and productive people and to try to get a return on the time and money consuming recruitment process. Designing the job description, preparing a person specification, placing adverts and briefing recruitment agencies, initial review of the replies, often initial telephone interviews, first interviews, second interviews and possibly assessment centres actually involve an immense amount of thought, money and effort
  I won?t even bother trading experience as the logic speaks for itself

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  Mercytown05/29/08 Report as spam
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  Employers are stereotying employees

  "I won't even bother trading experience..."
  Evidence of lack of effort in understanding the potantial employee, stereotyping them as "ob-hoppers" becasue they switched jobs.
  
  Putting ads and talking to agencies sound like doing a lot of work--in the beginning of the recruitment process.
  
  Nice try , but hardly relevant.

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  Peter Dilger05/30/08 Report as spam
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  Average cost of recruitment between ?4333 and ?7750

  Unfortunately a facile reply - preparing the job description and person specifications, briefing agencies, placing ads, conducting telephone interviews, face to face interviews possibly assessment centres, preparing job offers and acceptance t&c?s, very often having to go through the process more than once either because the candidate for whatever reason does not take up the offer or failing to find a suitable candidate requires AN IMENSE AMOUNT OF EFFORT, MONEY, PREPARATION, THOUGHT AND TIME
  A recent UK national survey put the average cost of filling a vacancy being between ?4333 and ?7750

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  Mercytown05/30/08 Report as spam
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  "Job-hopper" misunderstood

  I have no doubt you dislike people who callously change their jobs for frivolous reasons, nobody does. Hence your understanding (or misunderstanding) that anyone who had job changes are "job-hopper".
  
  That's what this article is trying to address. Facile reply? Of course, for someone couldn't bother to look beyond the number of jobs an employee has had.

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  MaGaDel05/30/08 Report as spam
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  Wouldn't it be cheaper if employers put in more effort in understanding?

  Woah, if what you said its true, then I'd think that a whole lot of that money wouln't have been necessary. Anyway, spending huge chunks of money isn't the same thing as findind out why a particular person changed jobs, Any connnection you can show?
  
  Rather, It shows the opposite.

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  Peter Dilger05/31/08 Report as spam
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  How would you save costs of recruitment

  if what you said its true, then I'd think that a whole lot of that money wouln't have been necessary
  
  So what part of the process do you cut out to save money?

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  Mercytown05/31/08 Report as spam
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  Right, no effort at all in understanding employee

  So you admit, stereotyping, personal biases all the way, all base on the baggage you call (and overate) 'experience'. Using the smokescreen of nouns and adjectives, including costs to sidetrack the main issue.
  Nice deflection there!

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  Peter Dilger05/27/08 Report as spam
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  The article was aimed at changing employers not employees

  The article was aimed at employers in an attempt to encourage the idea that employing job hoppers has merit
  
  The majority of the comments are in fact from employees supporting, for what ever reason, job hopping. The few employers who have replied are overwhelmingly stating that they see job hopping as a negative on a cv.
  
  Therefore the people who the article was aimed at converting seem to be saying a resounding NO and the fact that people who already job hop feel its ok have not convinced the employers - the person in the position to say yes or no - of the validity of their lifestyle argument.
  
  I guess that the job hoppers will continue to defend or present their argum,ents but if the majority of the support they get is from fellow hopper not employers its fuitile. By the way the job market will become significantly tighter over the next year as economies tighten their belts.
  
  Many of the hoppers appear to come from IT or "creative" industries - these are already experiencing job hopping of a different nature - Microsoft estimate that 200,000 IT jobs will go off shore to Chindia this year - and if employees feel its ok to job hop do nor be suprised when employers take the same view
  
  You have to give loyalty effort commitment etc in order to receive the same

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  stevenchao05/27/08 Report as spam
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  Agree

  You have an excellent assesment fo the polarized positions. The only thing I would disagree with is with your final statement.
  
  I would suggest that, one should not expect a return when one gives. If one is unhappy, then one has the power to make a choice to change for better or worse.
  
  Peace,

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  Mercytown05/28/08 Report as spam
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  RE: Would You Hire a Job Hopper?

  The article is basically saying that the term "job-hopping" has been wrongly conceptualized (mostly by stereotyping employers) to mean something bad.
  
  There are a (exceptionally) few replies here that shows just how myopic these people can be, not only applying the wrong labels to people who changed jobs, but basing important HR decisions on their biases. Smart.

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  Peter Dilger05/31/08 Report as spam
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  ??????

  What are you on about - did I mention personal biases or experience all I answered was your assertion that employers were not involved in any great costs - in fact they are
  
  Of course I may have used nouns and adjectives in fact it would have been difficult to construct the sentance without them -
  
  Look if you want to job hop that is your perogitive as an employer it is my perogative to take that into account if I think there are adequate reasons for the moves I may in fact offer employment if I do not I will not make an offer its as simple as that and its up to you then to continue to look elsewhere.

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  MaGaDel05/31/08 Report as spam
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  recruitment process

  Peter, you need to know the difference between spending money looking for employees, and actually talking to employees.Most employers do not even want to meet (much less talk) to people who had several job switches, something you fully support.
  
  If you think that its not worth the effort to talk to these people, that's alright, but it is a personal biase nontheless. Not everyone is without some kind of biase.

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  TechnoBaron06/01/08 Report as spam
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  Job Hoppers are an asset to a company

  I am an IT Systems Integration Manager for an IT firm and my answer would yes all the way.
  
  It is a common place event to change your position in IT multiple times over the years and mainly because IT Pros need to keep current with their skills in an ever changing environment and another reason is that there are so many different areas to upskill in.
  
  I am saying yes!!!

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  saq0706/03/08 Report as spam
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  RE: Would You Hire a Job Hopper?

  i would? if i see they are striving to get out the best in them moving from one challange to another.

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  JSORMIE06/04/08 Report as spam
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  RE: Would You Hire a Job Hopper?

  Staying in the same position with one employer might just imply that one is not marketable... secondly it might as be interpreted as having one years experience twenty times. One can stay in a job for a short time and add more value than the person who has stayed there for twenty years.

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  aashish.juneja06/04/08 Report as spam
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  Re:Would you hire job hopper

  Well, my view is that 10 years in same job, in same company is not 10 years of experience. It is effectively 3 years of experience.
  
  Experience diversity is extremely important in today's economy.
  
  A person with 10 years in 5 companies is effectively more capable than person with 15 years experience person in one company. Thats becuase the learning curve of hopper is steep, fast and deep. He would have understanding of multiple systems and processes, multiple products and services.

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  ninna.macaltao06/05/08 Report as spam
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  RE: Would You Hire a Job Hopper?

  Yes, if they can demonstrate that such behavior was a strategy to achieve their goals in a win-win way and provided they give me a clear heads-up on their goals right from the start. My recent path up was via 4 roles in 4 years --- bigger roles with bigger companies, achieving a 148% increase in compensation. Someone else, including 75% of my former bosses, was always eager to hire me.

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  markcrane_@...06/11/08 Report as spam
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  RE: Would You Hire a Job Hopper?

  I was a job hopper - and my main reason for 'leaving' was usually caused by the stupidity / or attitudes of the company or line manager of the firm I worked for

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  Peter Dilger06/13/08 Report as spam
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  It doesnt matter what you think!!!!!

  Guys
  It doesnt matter what you think as a job hopper its all about the perception by thye employer - I recently chaired an international hr conference with nearly 300 hr directors in the audience. One session was on attracting and retaining talent - so both sides of the coin but the overwhelming majority said that persistant job hopping probably more than two consecuitive job hops would rule either rule out the candidtae or seriously damage their chances of being employed - you may like it, you may think its a good idea, you may think it makes you marketable - unfortunately the people doing the hiring or advising the hirers dont - they may be wrong you maybe right but they have the power -

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  Fueston06/16/08 Report as spam
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  RE: Would You Hire a Job Hopper?

  Many companies need to figure in the cost of onboarding and training new employees. The costs can be substantial. If the two empoyees are nearly equally qualified, then the lower cost option is usually the best option (for most companies).

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  seansilverthorne@...06/20/08 Report as spam
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  Hmmm. Maybe. Probably not

  Look, when I post a job 80% of the resumes that come back are clearly not qualified or not right for the job (That 80-20 rule strikes again!). The 80 percent don't meet the tech specs outlined, or they are applying to a job they want rather than the one I advertised.
  
  The remaining 20% are the exciting candidates I focus on in the first cut. And I have to tell you that I value my own long-time employees, and I don't want to bring someone in who is going to be a short-timer.
  
  The message being, if you have a resume full of short-term appointments, be prepared to address that issue aggressively both in your cover letter and your interview. It's a red flag, whether deserved or not.

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  tjakubow08/05/08 Report as spam
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  RE: Would You Hire a Job Hopper?

  Commentator #19, evnucci, needs to learn some proper English grammar and get off her/his high pedestal of achievements.

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  kwalter05@...04/09/09 Report as spam
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  recruitment agencies

  It is all too easy to take a job, think that all is going well and then find out that you are actually receiving far less in terms of money and benefits than employees of other companies who do the same kind of work that you do.
  ----------------
  Karen Walter
  
  recruitment agencies
  
  

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  Diamond8307/27/09 Report as spam
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  Help!?

  Ok...ive read the first twenty comments and the last four and none are helpful....to Somone like ME that is.....I am 25 I Have 7 years of customer service exp. I have been navy for four years and still in (reserves) making it 6. I CANT FIND A JOB! I put in resume after app after etc.
  What do i do!?
  By how you guys explain it....I am screwed!
  
  Some "experts" say i am overqualified, some say I am to much of a "Job Hopper" but non-the-less I STILL fall in the category.....I know what the problem is, now i need help on a brighter future. I have a child of nine months and to know i cant help my family shreds me up inside.
  
  I want to stay somewhere but like most of you said i cant explain my past on a resume so what can i do? Spice up my resume? Find higher paying Jobs? What?!
  
  I live in killeen tx. if that will help.....and please, no links! Ive seen just about all of them! and tried most of them but all have the same result......Thank you and god bless for ANY advice....