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CEOs Favor McCain 4 to 1: Survey

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    wayne@...10/09/08 Report as spam
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    Ummm, is this the best time to be quoting CEOs on their economic judgment? I'd be really interested to know what industries these folks are in and if the vote splits differently.

    I suspect that leaders of innovative growing industries have a slightly different take on it. Age and demographics play a part too, I'd wager. I'll take a pass on John Sidney McCain III, thanks.

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    Rockerred10/09/08 Report as spam
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    Chief Executive magazine is perhaps the least credible business publication in the US. Its model has always been to glorify the old-fashioned autocrat. No surprise these guys with big cigars like McCain -- they're probably hoping to cadge invitation to Sedona with their own trophy wives.

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    john3347@...10/09/08 Report as spam
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    Certainly CEO's of large corporations would favor McCain, they already own him and they would have to spend a lot of money to buy Obama. It would be a disaster for the sloppy rich CEO's who have brought this country to its knees when Obama becomes President, not for the country.

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    david.marchman@...10/09/08 Report as spam
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    That seals it for me. I am voting for Obama. The current state of affairs in of those at the CEO level in this country does not give me any level of confidence in their pick.

    This is a group of individuals that receive compensation packages that are often obscene. Frequently they receive bonuses and incentive stock even when they don't perform. And too often their solution is to cut heads.

    I don't think this group is qualified to pick a leader.

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    stevenchao10/09/08 Report as spam
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    You have got to be kidding to be expecting a shift toward Democrat!

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    EduVision10/09/08 Report as spam
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    I think the results of this poll say it all about the challenges facing the US. What is needed is more balance between unfettered free enterprise and the climate for entrepreneurial innovation. Today this is out of balance thanks to politicans that seem to believe that democracy means listening to lobbyists. The only way the US is going to get back where it needs to be is to change. I hope we can look forward to that?

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    rsw12310/09/08 Report as spam
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    Wow. Thanks for the insightful breaking news! I'm shocked to find out that rich white guys prefer a republican.

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    SomewhatSmart10/09/08 Report as spam
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    That's like saying the NRA supports him. Heck, I would support him if I was being allowed to steal $30M a year, bankrupt a company, and have the feds bail me out. Is this supposed to be news?

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    sfrlkgc10/09/08 Report as spam
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    As the article notes, the CEOs favored George Bush. Need more be said about their judgment. Bottom line is they care more about keeping money in their pockets than the health of the country.

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    melvin88810/09/08 Report as spam
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    What else you expect them to say...The current financial crisis and Enron debacle are the results of CEO greed and incompetence. One can only imagine what the country will get to if and when McCain is elected....down the tube.

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    mtaigman10/09/08 Reported as spam
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    I'm forwarding this link to the Obama campaign. I can't imagine a better reason for the employees these guys have screwed to vote for Barack. Thanks for helping!!!

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    kikabisogno10/09/08 Report as spam
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    No Kidding? I wonder if this has anything to do with the tax break that big corporations would get under McCain?

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    Aquarius5210/09/08 Report as spam
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    First I am not sure that most CEOs would regard this magazine as the most credible forum for CEOs. Secondly, what does Chief Executive Magazine hope to achieve by releasing the results of this "supposed" survey?

    I think the results are suspect and represent electioneering and the wish to unduly influence the election by a less than credible publication.

    By the way, I am Independent. I am just weary of transparent attempts to dupport one candidate or the other while dishonestly claiming objectivity.

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    mfreepar10/09/08 Report as spam
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    And here I thought they were all getting their voting directions at Church!

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    hornplayer6339@...10/09/08 Report as spam
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    i don't think any one obama or mccain is up for the challenge what we need to do as voters in this country is clean house from the top federal
    to the bottom city government and replace them all but people in general dont want to get involve because it does'nt affect them but now that has all changed the rich is losing their money and the poor keeps getting poorer but now people want change because to well to do is suffering not just the poor was suffering so for the people who voted yes on bailing out the top tier of this nations big wall street firms they also need to be replaced no matter what political party they belong to

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    bmac910/09/08 Report as spam
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    Come on Peter, This is news? Do you really believe CE magazine is a true representation of all CEO"s? Know you audience.

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    martykz10/09/08 Report as spam
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    Oh, yeah! Tell us something we don't know. Put McCain in a lineup with 5 other U.S. CEOs, except, of course, Buffet and Gates, and see if you can tell them apart.

    The issue here is simply intellect. Not only does Obama have the brain chops, but he also plays well with others.

    Republicans take pride in being zealous morons disdaining ideas for ideology and thinking for believing. They want the end of the world to come? Let's let them have it.

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    Angelicatech@...10/09/08 Report as spam
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    Yeah, right.

    So how do we account for this:

    http://www.charlotteobserver.com/406/story/225909.html

    One wonders just which CEOs, indeed.

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    matthew5six10/09/08 Report as spam
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    While the article's method or approach may be questionable, the results are correct. Obama simply doesn't have the ability to lead this country. He's only gotten this far becuase people want change and he's not your typical presidential candidate. Change can be good, but not all change is for the good. Hopefully the american people won't have to find that out the hard way over a 4 year peiod. McCain isn't perfect I'll grant, but sure beats the other option.

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    rlucas7110/09/08 Report as spam
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    And these are the leaders who got us where we are today! These CEOs don't even know that the train has already left the station. Our country and institutions are entering into a new era led by a new generation.

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    Tony_Marq10/09/08 Report as spam
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    CEOs favoring McCain are like monkeys favoring bananas. Let's face it, if you were going to hand me $700k, I vote for you.

    CEOs ideas of stimulating the economy is their ticket to buying excessively nice stuff from foreign countries. Of course the economy is going toi but stimulated, by whose, not the U.S.

    Frankly, as a shareholder, I do recognize that CEOs are in a very precarious situation. If stocks keep going down they'll not have to worry about that pool clogging up or that new car running out of gas.

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    KrisCaldwell10/09/08 Report as spam
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    Color me surprise. A fraternity of fat cats who see only one color ... GREEN ... (not in the environmental sense) ... prefer McCain and his economic genius running mate. One can only hope that many of these greedy jerks, especially financial-industry CEOs, will be brought up on felonies, thereby losing future privilege to weigh-in on elections.

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    affinitymc10/09/08 Report as spam
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    No surprises here.

    The view from Canada, your largest trading partner, where I live:

    Bush sends shivers down our spines, and McCain is not far behind...militarism, nationalism, arrogance, corporate greed and financial crisis are what has given the US it's current reputation in the world at large, and the Republicans are to blame.

    Obama CAN turn this around, but only if each of his fellow Americans pulls their weight...'ask not what your country can do for you, but rather what you can do for your country' to quote Kennedy, is as true today as it was in the sixties...and I don't mean military service!

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    KayB2910/09/08 Report as spam
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    Yeah, and don't we just L O V E the opinion of CEOS in this country. Buzzards they are. They were wrong back then, and they will be wrong going forward. YES WE CAN.

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    pau1ke11y10/09/08 Report as spam
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    This is great. I wonder if old Peter was expectin' that the folks who reat Bnet were going ta be danged impressed by the CEO numbers he was quoting. But it doesn't appear to me that anyhone is impressed byt the CEO survey. Sure, they have been discredited lately, but still and all, wow, nobody really gives a flying rat's patootie what CEOs think. CEOs are just people who don't really have any more insight than other folks. Actually, I would rather hear what nurses, teachers, journalists or others have to say about this.

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    e1wood10/09/08 Report as spam
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    Mathew5Six, where have you been the last 8 years? Not to say we should paint McCain with the same brush as Bush, but he's IN THEIR POCKET!!

    This group of individuals, along with many others, will vote for McCain for one simple reason, SKIN COLOR. The teaching of racism in this country is a pity.

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    LazQuin30310/09/08 Report as spam
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    So, you want a President who wants to redistribute wealth, is doing away with the "Bush" tax cuts (which will increase your taxes though technically not an increase), who befriends terrorists and other controversial people and who spent half his Senate tenure running for office? All talk, no action....that's what this middle class taxpayer sees.

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    isitgoingtogetanybetter10/09/08 Report as spam
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    The CEO's of America should be ashamed of themselves for what they have been doing to there country. Yes they have been looking out for there own good instead of the interest of the people. They have been filling up there pockets with our hard working money and not even thinking about it. Even the companies have been taking advantage of our money by spending it ruthlessly on there own internal benifet. This should be no surprise on what they have been doing. Americas has finaly caugth up with what has been going. So, when fruitfully they have been getting soaked in our money for such a long period of time from the ruling of our current commander and cheif and his counter parts all of sudden someone comes in and threatens to takith away sure you are going to see a 4 to 1 ratio. I am not an advocate of either candidate but change does need to come forth. I believe that Cain will be just that person to continue on the legend that has been going on for sometime..4 more years who knows maybe even longer. Just remember the past 8 years...

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    revphull10/09/08 Report as spam
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    Conventional economic wisdom espoused by the conventional. Ho-hum! What else is new?

    And look where the conventional economic wisdom has taken the US economy. Seems it's time for some unconventional wisdom. We better not look to the "4 to 1" for that.

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    umasubra10/09/08 Report as spam
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    With my stock profits wiped out, my retirement years at
    grave risk, the prospect of getting a job being really dim,
    and all the economic woes that our country is going
    through, am I really going to trust the opinions of these
    "wonderful" CEOs! CEO magazine has got to be kidding. I
    would not vote for McCain even if I wasn't a Democrat.
    Why would I want a McBush president and a
    fundamentalist, brainless vice president who wants more
    powers. Obama represents the hope and vision that our
    country needs.

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    Belvadere10/09/08 Report as spam
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    Sadly, we're going to get the government we deserve. And after 4 years of a Democratic presidency and a Democratic run legislative branch - I wonder who will be blamed? I can hear it now, "George Bush screwed things up way worse than we first thought." Round and round we go, down the toilet we shall go. Surf's up, kids. Grab your boards and kiss your ass good-bye!

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    grovesmr10/09/08 Report as spam
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    I can't believe this is a businees education site and you people responding are that dim about what a CEO is and does. If you are in business, do any of you aspire to reach the top? If not, why waste your time on this site?

    How many of you know that most CEO's do not run Fortune 100 companies. The overwhelming majority are leaders of small to mid-sized businesses, many of them closely held family businesses, trying to do what's best for their oganizations and thier families.

    Most CEO's have succeeded by overcoming trials that would bury most people, before rising to the top. Many (most) operate at great personal financial risk, therefore they deserve every penny of the profits generated after everyone else gets paid (definition: equity). Sure, there are some bad apples out there, but to label all CEO's as rich, greedy jerks is really just sad.

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    Nancy E. Chorpenning10/09/08 Report as spam
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    I think your story should read, "CEOs think Obama would be a disaster for THEIR economy." Alas, they exist in rarefied air where most Americans who are suffering at their decades-long greed and amorality cannot or will not venture.

    THIS independent small business owner is voting for OBAMA!

    Nancy in Atlanta

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    rmbanfield10/09/08 Report as spam
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    I nearly erupted in anger when I read this article. Once I had read this long list of comments I was comforted that there is still some sanity in the world. Regardless of the political undertones, the source of this survey is well known as being a bastion of 'the old boy's club' mentality. The article's survey methods and biased ideas are unfortunately just more of the same 'spin' we've all grown very tired of in the media. As a CEO I seriously hope BNet reconsider offering up such poorly considered opinion without providing a sensible counter argument.

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    lwllms10/09/08 Report as spam
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    Peter,

    Who cares what CE Magazine found in their survey? How old are you? Do you remember the condition of the US just eight years ago? Let me refresh your memory:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN-I0GtVTeg

    Watch that video and then come back and tell me about disasters.

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    gint110/09/08 Report as spam
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    It's interesting that all of you leaving these messages are bitting the hands that feed you and really shows me how much YOU need someone to lead you, you need someone to give you a job and take care of you. But don't think for one minute the government will take care of you. Its not their business to do so and if they continue to try (as we seen what happened when the government encouraged Fanny Mae) it will get worse. Don't blame the exec's for this, balme your government.

    BTW, Don't blame the CEO for the FAT package they have, blame the board members that approved the package. And as long as they don't get paid with my tax dollars I don't care how much money they make. If you don't like thier package, don't buy their stock or don't buy their products.

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    GWJones10/09/08 Report as spam
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    What a surprise that the most selfish, autocratic, greedy people in America today favor McCain!

    If you've ever worked in the ranks of corporate executives (or for them) you will have realized that it is these characteristics above that define modern CEO's. Not enlightened decision-making, analytical abilities or communication skills, just a single-minded devotion to "me".

    Perhaps the strongest indirect arguments for Obama I've heard in a while.

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    rsalatin10/09/08 Report as spam
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    Who gives a **** about what CEOs think? The only people benefitting in any way, shape or form from our current economic situation are CEOs, COOs and CFOs. They're concerned with losing a million here a million there in the backdrop of hundreds of millions of total equity; you're worried about losing the terminal hundred thousand in your retirement account. I'd vote against the CEOs on this one!!!!

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    rnlyness@...10/09/08 Report as spam
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    No surprise. As the rats how they feel about a resident cat, versus the sleeping dog they had for the past 8 years. Easily 4 to 1 against.

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    DeniseCorc10/09/08 Report as spam
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    I absolutely scratch my head from some of the comments already posted. Where do I even start?

    Polls will always say what they want the results to say. That includes the national polls for this election. I don't even pay attention to polls because they attempt to generalize based on a tiny biased sample.

    Second comment. Not all CEOS are greedy no more than all men or women are fat. I know has CEOs who have put employees first before their own paycheck during crises. While we only tend to hear about the bad ones in the media (because that makes for good news), there are CEOs who come from a place of integrity, strong values and making a difference.

    As far as the candidates, it is a pretty dismal choice no matter who gets elected. While I am not big on McCain (too many reasons to list), I get anxiety attacks and break out in hives thinking about Obama being president. The only "real" leadership experience he has was being president of the debate team or was it the newspaper at Harvard School of Law.

    I am all for vision and idealism if backed up with experience, wisdom (different than intellectual knowledge), decisiveness and backbone ... none of which Obama can provide this country. The US is in big trouble if Obama gets elected.

    I genuinely like Obama as a person and certainly he can woo a crowd. However, it will take more than rousing rhetoric, good looks and his mantra of change to lead this country at all, never mind given the dire and unprecedented challenges we face right now.

    It's too bad Al Gore did not run this year. He is at the top of my list as far as a leader that has the experience, track record and integrity to deal with their country's multi-faceted challenges and turn this country around that could turn this country around.

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    stoptheinsanity10/09/08 Report as spam
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    I am at a loss of words after reading the majority of these posts. For all of you who purport to represent the Democratic Party which prides itself on representation of the working class and breaking down class and race barriers in an effort to create equality: you are the first to complain about the situation, stereotype (you don't want to be stereotyped, but hey "game on" when discussing someone else) and talk in such generalities based on a nebulous foundation of opinion rather than fact.
    Saying that the CEO's will vote for McCain because all CEO's are rich and white is just as ignorant as saying all black americans list fried chicken and watermelon as their favorite dish. Ignorance knows no color, and to make such comments is nothing short of pure ignorance. I suppose people could make the same argument that Obama is doing so well in certain areas because all the African Americans are voting for him because they are poor and black.
    Reality folks is that the idea of distribution of wealth and a general sense of "down with the man" mentality is how wonderful socialist republics like China and the USSR were founded.
    THINK PEOPLE. It isn't that difficult. Pick the candidate you feel best represents your interest, but for the love of all things good in this world, THINK before you open your mouth. And think long term which is way beyond the nose on your own face.
    What truly kills me is that you are the same people who ***** about corporate America then wonder why you lose your job or your company goes under when it can't afford to survive in this country. The same people who ***** about defense spending then when another 911 happens turn around and ***** that the government didn't do enough.

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    Harry Schmedlap10/09/08 Report as spam
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    In the U.S., corporations pay far more taxes than individuals. Also, the vast majority of corporate execs receive compensation in line with norms of their respective industry, so check your ignorant capitalist hating hyperbole at the door. The notion that corporations are screwing all of us in this free society we enjoy is the product of repeatedly telling ourselves lies. The fat of our federal bureaucracy has been more often than not, the product of a democrat-controlled Congress. That is the branch of government that appropriates spending. Dems authored Social Security, Medicaid, Medicare, LBJ???s plethora of ???Great Society??? initiatives, The Community Reinvestment Act of 1977, and countless other well-intentioned nanny-state initiatives. It appears that many writers here operate on the na??ve assumption that the President is really responsible for everything, a concept that Dems are more than happy to foist on you foolish Kool-Aid drinkers (and you are happy to mindlessly repeat along with the democratic press). Your current economic woes are the doing of Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Nancy Pelosi, and countless other idiot Dems who battled against Republicans two years ago to block their requests to reign back Freddie and Fanny from self-inflicted suicide in a sea of sub-prime lending. Wall Street deserves blame, but only to the extent that that they packaged securitized mortgage vehicles that had been pushed, underwritten and endorsed by Freddie and Fanny, in effect, the USA!. Hence, the banks were doing what the idiot Dems were requiring them to do and Wall Street was selling stuff backed by Uncle Sam. So what???s the solution? Hey, let???s socialize medicine! After all, our liberal-controlled government has ineptly mismanaged nearly everything else, let???s let completely screw up the greatest health care system in the world! Here???s a reality check, everyone! Life is imperfect and it always will be. The most effective system for optimization of anything is individual empowerment tied to personal reward. Personal reward is the most effective incentive for humans. On a macro scale, the system that most effectively incentivizes the greatest number of people most consistently is free enterprise. As our forefathers indicated in the U.S. Constitution and countless other personal writings, the federal government???s most important role is defense and much of the day to day should be issues of state???s rights. The new messiah, Barry Obama, is a socialist shill who is an extraordinarily gifted public speaker. He plays very well in this time of sound bites telling the story, but he is an empty suit. If America is collectively stupid enough to elect him, then we???ll get what we deserve. I urge all of you to spend some time thinking deeply about the idea of voting for even greater enlargement of our federal government. It will be economic suicide and take a number medicine. By the way ???Barack??? is Kenyan for ???Jimmy Carter???.

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    stoptheinsanity10/09/08 Report as spam
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    Thank you Harry! Well said.

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    14Bri10/09/08 Report as spam
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    I think both of them will be the ruin of this country. I'm going for Alan Keyes.

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    ddesopo10/09/08 Report as spam
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    Harry for President!!!!!!

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    svasilev@...10/09/08 Report as spam
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    Sure are a lot of moronic responses on this thread. Very ignorant as to how money flows and what will REALLY bring this country to it's knees. Wealth redistribution is pretty much a proven failed concept.

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    jeff.heyen@...10/09/08 Report as spam
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    AMEN HARRY!!

    What all the folk here snowballed by the liberal media seem to forget is that it was the Democratic Controlled Senate and House over the last 2 years that has started the nails in the coffin.

    I hope we are smarter than that......McCain I agree isn't my first vote but I like living in a free country.........perhaps not for long.

    J

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    Canti9910/09/08 Report as spam
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    Everytime someone tries to give their slant on why it was "those guys" that screwed things up reads comical, like the democrats forced all that is bad. What a whiner!

    Those of us that are strong enough to read enough information beyond the shock jocks and their sound bites know that the system needs help.

    get a grip, no matter what side your on. Save your slant for your own group(S). I think you just need enemies to justify your own personal agenda and you just don't care about anyone but your own kind.

    The world is changing, we need leadership, not the blame game. Besides your showing your age.

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    krsso10/09/08 Report as spam
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    Good reason not to vote for McCain!

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    ddesopo10/09/08 Report as spam
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    Canti99 "you just don't care about anyone but your own kind." Let me guess, Canti, you are likely black and support Osama???(even though he is a terrorist in a Wall Street suit). You really don't want to work, would rather have a hand out, and think of Uncle Sam as your sugar daddy. Pathetic. When you invest in foreclosures and see with your own 2 eyes the level of destruction done to homes that were handed to the "poor, needy minorities" who were also greedy and stripped the equity out of their 180k+ homes to buy vehicles complete with spinners, then come talk to me. Sorry all you OSAMA folks but I must hit ya???ll with the reality stick. We have plenty of models of BIG CORRUPT GOVERNMENT and they have lots of dirt POOR PEOPLE. If you like that kind of country, you can leave America and no one will give a rip. But how dare you change it through this Obamination? The bail out stunt is a move toward socialism. All this talk of globally solving the economic mess is code for "one currency". Just like the OSAMA-speak of "fairness" is code for Marxism. Too bad you are too ignorant to understand the truth. Many of you are just plain hopeless, so just stay dumb and keep drinking the Kool-Aid

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    ddesopo10/09/08 Report as spam
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    These folks were way too generous when giving grades to Osama. Should be a few Fs in there-foreign and defense policies and tax proposals.

    Obama got an overall C minus grade with his tax proposals drawing the most doubt. Economics, foreign and defense policies all ranked D plus. Obama got his best marks, C plusses, in environment and education. Energy got a C minus.

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    jeffrycaudill10/09/08 Report as spam
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    Wow, reading these posts only reinforces my belief in the theory that Obama appeals to the...how shall I say it...less intelligent, less informed of the human species (ok, low IQ's). Democrats got us into this current economic mess by forcing lending institutions to give loans to those who couldn't afford to pay them back (translation - minorities). The loans were worthless when they were written, but the lending institutions were forced by law....written by and supported by the democratic left...to give them anyway. Uh...try to follow me here Obama supporters. What other outcome could you expect?! It wasn't Bush's fault, and it's not McCain's fault. It's liberals like Obama, who want to lock up the minority vote by keeping them on the government "payroll", and who keep driving this country deeper in debt, and creating this entitlement mentality! You can't force companies to give out bad loans, then point your fingers at them when the numbers don't add up. The same people (democrats) who got us in this mess, are now trying to tell us how it needs to be fixed. What a group of criminals! These very CEO's who you're condemning by the way, are the ones who run the companies who hire and fire entry level and mid-managment types like a lot of you posting here. Take away their incentives and you take away jobs, tax revenues, etc. See Reaganomics 101. And don't tell me about the national debt under Reagan. Tax revenues soared when he cut taxes. Congress just spent it all and more.

    I'm Republican....because not EVERYBODY can be on welfare.

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    oliver@...10/09/08 Report as spam
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    @jeffrycaudill

    Being a European, I have difficulties to understand, why Americans don't hold their "leaders" accountable. Those, who have towed them into a deep, deep crisis on all levels - Economy, Military, Social, Environment, Trust. And the rest of the world too. And they still find excuses...

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    el_sabio10/09/08 Report as spam
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    Whoever takes over will have one hell of a job to straighten out the mess the world is in.

    Obama has freshh ideas and McCain seems to play the same old tune as his "predecessor".

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    kprox@...10/09/08 Report as spam
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    Seven Hundred Billion buys a lot of votes.

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    blundstone10/09/08 Report as spam
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    warren buffett, btw, favors obama.

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    smangle10/09/08 Report as spam
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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't a s??gn??f??cant number of these CEOs graduates of Harvard Bus??ness School? We underprivileged Brits are led to believe it's the finest institution, of its kind, in the entire Universe!

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    Jeff Roe10/09/08 Report as spam
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    CEO's obviously understand Obama's philosophy about capitalism better than the Lib drones who are going to vote for him. I have no doubt these mindless zombies would vote for Him at this point no matter what he says or does, is accused of, indicted or arrested for or convicted of. We could find a dozen corpses in Obama's basement and they would still vote for him (it MUST be Bush's fault, somehow). You just can't fix stupid.

    Good luck with all of that.

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    DrBruin10/09/08 Report as spam
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    I am a CEO and I wouldn't vote for McCain if he were the only one running. He should be ashamed of the hate mongering he's descened to. He and Palin are inciting violence against Obama based on lies, and one of these nutballs is likely to decide to be a "patriot" and take a shot.

    McCain's deep involvement with Keating and the S&L crisis, his vacillation on foreign policy, his unthinking support for deregulation, and his total lack of understanding of basic economic issues is hardly what I'm looking for in the next president. He's adopted the mantra that government is the problem, but the truth is--that's a lie. Poorly managed government is a problem, just as poorly managed corporations are. But there are many things that a civil society needs to accomplish and can do so only through effective government action. Defense, infrastructure improvement, food and drug regulation--the list goes on. Pretending that somehow government is any form is the probem is a canard.

    We're in the worst economic situation any of are likely to see in our lifetimes. McCain is not intellectually up to the task of addressing the situation. It's not about the phony issue of "wealth redistribution." It's about competence.

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    NCharman10/09/08 Report as spam
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    Um - isn't 74%, more like 3 to 1 than 4 to 1?

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    ccspratt10/10/08 Report as spam
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    I've read this whole blog and it is rather interesting observing the hateful, angry malice spewing from the mouths of McCain supporters. I have to agree that McCain and Palin have successfully denigrated Obama in the eyes of his supporters. How easily manipulated you all are, believing his choice in choosing Palin is anything more than a half wit tactic to manipulate votes. And how much worse will he attempt to manipulate the American people if he is elected?

    Anyhow, it will be interesting to see how this stage play turns out...

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    vanreamer10/10/08 Report as spam
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    Wow, why doesn't anyopne get the fact that before all you were here Native Americans(?) had a few inter-tribal wars, but this was OUR country. Anyone want to leave now? We'd really appreciate it. You all suck!

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    molefe110/10/08 Report as spam
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    I am not surprised at all at this. This is the group that benefit the most if the horse they bet on wins. Obama is probably an unknown to them and hence not predictable as McCain ...

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    the limority report10/10/08 Report as spam
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    with all due respect...

    I wholeheartedly concur with ddesopo, Harry Schmedlap, stoptheinsanity, DeniseCorc, grovesmr, LazQuin303 and, of course, matthew5six (and maybe some others I may have missed). But i think a lot of you are missing the point.

    Regarding the financial mess, it is easy for some to place accusation on Bush or Republicans or even McCain, since of course, we have all already made this psychological association with the country's current [horrible] condition and, dare I say it, the rich, white man. And needless to say, wasn't it the CLINTON administration who, in 1998/2000, made it LEGAL for financial institutions to proceed with UNREGULATED credit default swaps - a huge part of how this toxic mess came about (though I am sure this was going on long before the Clinton admin. and it included many different players from BOTH parties)?? In other words, what they were doing (i.e., unregulated credit default swaps) was legal (but that which is legal isn't that which is also moral).

    Now, IF their actions ultimately get them convicted with felonies , this won't necessarily result in their loss of voters' rights (per KrisCaldwell's post). Felony convictions and voters' rights vary from state to state. There are no federal laws that exist on felons voting. Being convicted of a felony does not immediately disqualify a U.S. citizen from voting. In fact, only 12 states have any type of STRICT or RESTRICTIVE rules, one of which happens to be ARIZONA, where MOST felons lose voting privileges completely, but not all. Conversely, in Illinois, people with felony convictions may vote upon their release from incarceration, placing incarceration as the only limitation in that state for those with felonies wanting to vote. These are just a few state examples, NOT randomly selected.

    Next, those playing the RACE card, let's turn things around here for a minute... let's imagine for a second if John McCain were black... now, would you vote for the white man who was first community organizer and then a freshman senator for only 137 days (approximately) before beginning a presidential campaign? ??? who has limited experience, an anti-American upbringing, and minimal information (or refuses to tell) regarding his mother? ??? refers to working-class voters as those who "cling to guns and religion"? ??? was educated to hate the infidels of America as he studied the Quran in his youth in Indonesia? ??? was supported by a radical Islamic Saudi Arabian agency to study at Harvard Law School with a recommendation letter, though he never worked as a lawyer and spent his years as a community organizer, working for ACORN to register voters for the Democratic Party? ??? and for 20 years or so, attended, with his wife, the Church of Trinity where hatred for America was preached by Jeremiah Wright??

    So, now, who's playing the race card???

    By the way, this is the same man who, according to a white paper written by the New Media Academic Summit 2008 in Chicago (I am paraphrasing), alienated his volunteers and unpaid evangelists. That is, an Obama fan who ???created a MySpace page after Obama???s 2004 speech at the Democratic National Convention??? took the time to build ???over the next few years the fan page and began working with the campaign after Obama announced his candidacy. As the campaign began to demand more of the creator, the volunteer asked to be a paid staff member. The Obama campaign then told MySpace it was being blackmailed and MySpace shut down the page with 130,000 friends. This is an example of how not to work with an online community and a savvy volunteer. Obama lost an important online community and soiled a relationship with a dedicated volunteer." So, once he gets my loyal vote, will he invariably turn on me and accuse ME of something??? (http://www.scribd.com/doc/5597406/North-American-New-Media-Academic-Summit-2008) ...

    Didn???t Abe Lincoln say something to the extent of ???when you give a man power, you see his true character????????????

    That being said, all in all, it doesn't matter how much $$$ one has if their basic security and freedom are at an increased risk of being jeopardized -- I'd take losing my job ANY DAY over losing sleep every night knowing that the leader of my country, who sleeps underneath the same sky, is studying the Quran and befriending terrorists or those with terrorist or anti-American ties. Again, if you are unsafe or your security is threatened, the financial mess will suddenly pale in comparison. If you have no security (i.e., protection from harm) or health (i.e., physical health or piece of mind), then you really have nothing.

    Now, while Palin's tanning bed may be worth a conversation or two, all joking aside, she is the Governor of Alaska. So what?? Well, to paraphrase an individual who refers to him/herself as FLORIDA, isn't Alaska the first line of defense in the U.S. missile interceptor defense system? Isn't the 49th Missile Defense Battalion of the Alaska National Guard the unit that protects the entire nation from ballistic missile attacks from Russia or North Korea? Doesn't the aforementioned place Alaska/National Guard on permanent active duty, unlike other Guard units?? And don???t the aforementioned place Palin, as governor of Alaska, in a position where she is briefed on highly classified military issues, homeland security, and counter-terrorism? Perhaps her exposure to classified material may rival even Biden's and certainly by far exceeds Obama's.

    Palin is also the commander in chief of the Alaska State Defense Force (ASDF), a federally recognized militia incorporated into Homeland Security's counter-terrorism plans. Palin is privy to military and intelligence secrets that are vital to the entire country's defense. Given Alaska's proximity to Russia and North Korea, she may have security clearances we don't even know about. According to the Washington Post, she first met with McCain in February, but nobody ever found out. This is a woman who is used to keeping secrets. She can be entrusted with our national security because she already IS. So, her alerting Americans to the fact that Obama may have terrorist ties or that he is befriending terrorists is not mudslinging now, is it??

    Still, we must ask ourselves, is a junior-league, community-organizer candidate, who has never signed both sides of a paycheck and surrounds himself with anti-Americans, Muslims, terrorist sympathizers, radical clericals, misogynists, and racist liberals, the answer to our nation???s problems?

    It seems everyone is seeking change, including me. This is understandable after the last 8 years; however, because people are so set on change, so overwhelmed, and burnt out (I know I am!), they have associated change with ANYONE unattached to the status quo, whether it be Spongebob Squarepants from Biking Bottom or Obama. They want relief and someone to make it all better, regardless of whom it is or what the person???s personal agenda or views are, so long as he is detached from the current, horrible national events and unaffiliated with Republicans, since ???they are the crooks.??? And quite frankly, I am not a fan of either candidate. But between the two ???evils,??? I choose the lesser ???evil.??? I have stopped placing blame (or hope) on organizations, bureaucracies, or political groups, and have instead started to look at individuals to make change and progress.

    now, [scratching my head] where are my gun and Bible???

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    WaltF10/10/08 Report as spam
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    Lots of you people are walking, talking arguments for voter IQ tests. Let's see:

    Vote against Obama because:
    (a) he served on the board of an educational non-profit with a man who for many years now has been a highly respected educator;
    (b) has worked on behalf of poor and disadvantaged people; and
    (c) his middle name scares you.

    Vote for McCain despite the fact that:
    (a) he advocates nothing less than socialism with his mortgage buyout proposal;
    (b) he has demonstrated his contempt for you by picking a VP candidate who supports the man that says "the fires of hell are glaciers compared to my hatred for the U.S.," and who went to church with and accepted the blessings of a domestic terrorist; and,
    (c) he has a middle name that comes from the name of the patron saint of France, well known home of cheese-eating surrender monkeys like McCain himself.

    God bless America? How about God save America. Land of the morons, home of the knaves.

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    johnade10/10/08 Report as spam
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    That is their opinion.

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    oyewolebabafemi10/10/08 Report as spam
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    This is not surprising as birds of the same feather flock together. Obama is pro-poor and the middle class while McCain is pro-rich where the CEOs belong. The earlier those CEOs realise the Change that America needs and believes in the better for them.
    Babafemi

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    Miss Alaneus10/10/08 Report as spam
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    NCharman's "isn't 74%, more like 3 to 1 than 4 to 1?" points out a mistake that no one at CEO magazine noticed. When I read this comment it made me laugh out loud at the simplicity and profound truth of the revelation. It had the same feeling and impact of the child in the story who said that the Emperor was wearing no clothes. (That Hans Christian Anderson story begins when the Emperor believed 2 scoundrels who lied to him and said that a person must be incompetent and unfit for their position if they could not see the "thread" that would make the glorious clothing they would make for the Emperor. Then the people surrounding the Emperor were too afraid to speak the truth because they feared being viewed as incompetent and losing their position. Then the masses followed suit.)

    Fear runs rampant in this country and this world. It feeds our feelings and choices to the degree that we let it. Yet there is a huge population of people - unacknowledged by the mass media for the most part - who can see through and overcome their personal fears and make choices from a place of calm knowing. I encourage everyone to include the element of calm knowing (vs agitated fear) when casting your vote.

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    tbrauch10/10/08 Report as spam
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    Thank God for Reason and Intelligence

    The first 10 or so posts scare the heck out of me. I thought for a second that Obama would be the winner, hands down. Then I saw more intelligent posts from people who make decisions based on facts.

    I wish some of the people who support Obama would stop making arguments about McCain's socialist ideologies. Are you kidding me?

    Obama is leading us to a place where the government can bail each American out who just doesn't have the 'ability' to find a job or be a contributing member of society. Anyone who has put themselves through school and worked hard to make this country great should take care of all those 'less fortunate' people.

    Well, I believe in helping those truly in need more than anyone, but this is the land of opportunity, not the land of a handout, not the land of socialism, not the land of Hitler.

    Please go back and read the constitution, the Declaration of Independence and any other founding document that will help you understand that this nation was founded on Judeo-Christian ethics.

    You may also want to check out the Bill Ayers ties, along with one of Barrack's initiatives to transform American families in favor of transgender/transexuals.
    http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/alexokrent/gGggJS

    Scary! Obama wants to change the America that has been so successful up til now. Yes, we've had issues. No, we are not perfect. But if you don't like America and you want to live in a transgender society with no morals and no free market, why don't you go to France? I really am curious.

    We are headed for disaster if Obama is elected.

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    mcarbone10/10/08 Report as spam
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    What we're all missing is that the next President needs to be someone who brings people together. Obama is a divider a polarizer.

    What a great releif to read this article. I was thinking everyone was being brain washed by the polls.

    Funny, most everyone I talk to who works for a living and pays taxes is voting for McCain. The others are voting for Obama because they are voting against Bush again or the MTV factor, because he's cool and new.

    Mark Carbone
    CEO
    Orlando, FL

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    I'm amazed that a freshman senator of any party could get this far - Obama hasn't done anything. He's never even been a director in a large company, let alone a VP or CEO. He's never served in the military. I'll take a senior senator and a freshman governor over more of the same politics, thanks.

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    Prof. Dr. Dr. M.O.Z. ECS ;)10/10/08 Report as spam
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    4 to 1 for McCain?....

    .... the voters must be the same type of CEO's which got us into this global mess.
    McCain has no backbone... he's no war hero, look at his record, remember the Keating case, where over 3Billion of taxpayers money was lost. This guy has no moral standard, he's nothing bu an opportunist.
    As to Obama; his advisors are way more realistic. I would vote Obama/Biden.

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    DPWN10/10/08 Report as spam
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    Not surprised at results. They own him as well as GW. I would like to know how their companies are performing vs foreign competition.
    Bill Clinton didn't have deep experience in foreign relations or the economy. The economy did well under his terms - at the least he knew enough to not screw up the economy. I am sorry but 20 years of doing the same thing over and over again does not qualify as broad experience, only narrow, deep knowledge. Sorry, but I don't think Sara P can fill McCain's gap in experience and knowledge.

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    AmyCes10/10/08 Report as spam
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    I think this is just one more reason to vote for Obama! Thanks for sharing the article! happy

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    objected10/10/08 Report as spam
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    Look at the Chief Executuve website celebrating the 2008 CEO of the Year, majority are white males with a few white females, not one black male or female anywhere. No wondor CEO Magazine is favoring MCCain, they represent the white male establishment. American CEo's are nothing more than bigoted, minority hating, union-busting racists.Obama will get them where it hurts, tax the heck out of them.

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    michael.cuno@...10/10/08 Report as spam
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    That CEOs are staunchly Republican is hardly a surprise. With the reputation CEOs broadly enjoy these days, I don't see the poll swaying anyone's thinking.

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    Damse110/10/08 Report as spam
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    I will say no more than what has been said already. I doubt if CEO's are the right category of people to provide an unbaised opinion of a better candidate. What a joke!

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    neicymoses@...10/10/08 Report as spam
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    I certainly appreciate the article, however, the CEOs that were part of the survey are not being very realistic. It is amazing to me, how we fail to come to terms with the "right thing to do" because we are faced with an option that is simply....different. Change is hard for everyone and this is getting at the people-side of change.
    Trinice S. Moses
    Mt. Holly, NJ

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    winston_agbebiyi@...10/10/08 Report as spam
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    Two things.

    1. While entitled to his opinion, we should shun racist writers like ddesopo whose responses here are so vile and absolutely disgusting. Racist need to put someone down to feel good about their own inadequacies.

    2. I also have no respect for a candidate who has fallen behind and now resorts to pandering to racist and violent thugs in his political rallies.

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    barcodeguy10/10/08 Report as spam
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    This is a survey that even my dog could have predicted. It's a good thing trees were not cut down to put this in hard copy print. With the economy in the tank, maybe we ought to "outsource" the Presidency. How about Richard Branson as a candidate?

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    passalande10/10/08 Report as spam
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    What are we doing?!

    While I, like all of us, am eager for new blood in Washington, I'd like to point out something that I believe has been missed by the McCain campaign and has sincerely hurt the image of President Bush.

    Often, when a party is represented in the white house, congress and the senate tend to drift the other direction to balance the power. It is not the President who holds all the power, most bills are not raised by him! Yet somehow the President is only the face associated with a disaster. When a watch stops working you don't blame the hands, you look inside at the cogs. Let's please examine!!

    The only saving grace if Obama gets elected is that there is this division of power. Unfortunately, he has free reign for a little while. I am fearful, but I believe his policies will be revealed in their true light and am hopeful that this great nation will learn a powerful lesson. At what cost? That remains to be seen.

    I will say this - I believe America needs a better communicator as President. I realize he or she bears the burden of classified information and is often limited in what can be said, but there MUST be a better way to address this nation. I see that as the appeal to Obama, he has found many ways to bring things to a very personal level. However, as stated by someone earlier, it takes much more than fancy words to be able to run a country.

    One more point and I will get off my soapbox.

    The economy:

    The stock market is founded on speculation, it is conducive to bubbles. What we really need to look at is where we are in the boom and burst cycle. Looking at historical data, we would be surprised to find that we are JUST NOW hitting the recession point, we have not even gone negative. Speculation could make this much worse than is necessary.

    In speculation's defense, we must look forward to the new and innovative powerhouses of America, and stop staring backwards at the big inefficient businesses who have lost their competitive abilities. We MUST enable a fair and competitive market and allow small and mid-tier businesses to grow and prove themselves competitive with the old big businesses of yesteryear.

    Small and mid-tier businesses with visions are going to be squashed by mandated healthcare and higher taxes. They are already hampered in efforts to do business with large and inefficient, sometimes greedy powerhouses.

    And think about it.. we are encouraging people to live off government support. We are truly punishing our best and brightest. Who wants to be the CEO anymore? Become CEO and face infinite scrutiny for your salary, your business processes, who you do business with, your benefits system and things you simply can't micromanage, and it's not your role to micromanage! I agree in accountability, do not attack me for that.. and I believe and agree that true evils should be revealed and fixed, but I also think we need to hold the correct group accountable and STOP GENERALIZING! Please hold the corrupt CEOs accountable while recognizing that they are the exception to the rule or we will disable and discourage the businesses who are the foundation of this country's future.

    As far as Obama's policies go.. I'm bracing myself. I personally will be aiming to make less than previous years simply because I don't want to fall in any higher tax brackets. The already take half of my business and half of my salary! I am outraged at feeling like I should try to do worse. Shouldn't we be trying to constantly improve? Isn't that what America is REALLY about?

    Let's regroup and refocus. And here's how it's done!

    Mandate a fair tax and you'll find that the people who are rich didn't do it by buying yachts and Maserati. The reason we haven't mandated a fair tax is because the people it would hurt are the ones who claim to need the most help!

    Limited congress and senate terms. They are career politicians, they MUST get elected again or they're out of jobs, so they will vote however they need to in order to stay in office. This is NOT the unbiased judgment we expect from them! Limit their terms and suddenly they won't be career politicians, we'll get a new breed who becomes a politician to help America succeed.

    Limit bills to the matter at hand. Why do we insist on adding goodies to sway this or that politician? Seriously, when voting for something important, they should be voting on the matter at hand. ONLY the matter at hand.

    Balance media. One side congratulates, the other slanders. Reverse. Rinse and repeat. When people do something truly noteworthy, it should be recognized for what it is, good, bad or indifferent. But we need to stop "creating" news. There are plenty of things we can give facts about without needing to make extraneous stories.

    Encourage trade and efficiency. These days, it is not what you know or your ideas that move you along the road to success, it is WHO you know. Your business will do great if you know someone inside a big business that can help you along. Is this comparative advantage? Not by true economic terms, that's for sure.

    I understand being inundated by inquiries, but let's put minds together and figure out ways to filter these instead of turning to "the insider crowd".

    Comparative advantages will shift over time as our nation gets better at some things and worse at others. We need to compete with our new and innovative ideas, not force through the dying powerhouses of the past. It's time for a Fortune 500 evolution!

    However, I understand that the government must play a role in things we cannot and should not import for matters of national security. Like food. Some farms and foods must be subsidized because if someone decides to attack us and we can't import food, we must have something to eat that we can rely on from inside our borders. I am not upset to hear that we do this, just so long as we do it appropriately.

    We're getting a wakeup call. We've hit snooze a few too many times and we're late to the game. So, let's not dress from 1950, let's put our best foot forward and show what this nation is really made of.

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    pcurley262410/10/08 Report as spam
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    If McCain gets elected. Sell everything and hold cash...because the market will go down.

    Lowering the tax rate 5% will not help when the market is down 50%...

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    cinwere10/10/08 Report as spam
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    Well, everyone knows that CEOs always vote Republican and not democrat because the Republican party is always perceived to be business friendlier than the democratic party. This is not really a choice between 2 men ( Mccain and Obama) but two parties.

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    hatesfraud10/10/08 Report as spam
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    Harry and the rest who agree with him GET REAL!!! Talk about safety, Bush and Cheyney wanted to sell our ports, my how quik we forget. And yes the Democrats may have ran the house but we have a president who vetos anything that comes his way which is why we need a Democratic president. You people need to just admit your racist and be brave about it and say it, quit looking for excuses. If Bush wanted Osama he would have got him, the Bush family is friends with the Bin Laden Family. Get a life! again CANT BELIEVE THEY WANTED TO SELL OUR PORTS, I FEEL REALLY SAFE ABOUT THAT!!!!!

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    dsmith1410/10/08 Report as spam
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    I wonder among the pro-bama's responding how many were homeowners and business owners in the late 70's and early 80's? How many are students of history? Who among you realize our country was founded in conflict and bloodshed and our freedoms have remained such for 2 centuries only by sacrifice and fighting for what we have created in this unique nation. I personally find nothing of substance in obama. At least the CEO's of MOST companies have sucessfully done something without corruption. Some are bad, but the fact is most have done more than Obama ever has. I am not ready for a layer of government intervention telling me how I have to operate my business. I am not willing to return to the regressive tax structure of the Jimmy Carter era. Our country does not need someone to play nice at this point in our history. Read Obama's two books, and if after doing so you can vote for the man then your informed choice is for a country other than we have ever known. Sad day for the USA.

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    meckey2710/10/08 Report as spam
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    Some posts here are ridiculous, and immoral to say the least. I'm not a US citizen but a citizen of the world. I know that America only gets what it asks for and indeed deserves from the so called "TERRORISTS". How on earth you find it your business to meddle into other countries' affairs and force things, under the pre-text of promoting democracy, onto them. The American military invade other countries at will for nothing but their only selfish greed.

    Now, tell me, is the life of an American more sacred than anyone else in the world? America must wake up to this reality: TERRORISTS also have the right to defend themselves when their security is violeted by the Americans..... Unless America changes its desire for "world domination", it will continue to create loads of enemies abroad. Where theres ACTION there will be a REACTION.

    I think the world has had enough of the America's selfishness........ We must conquer and own the wolrd and its people!!! ********!!!!

    Take my advise: Obama will rendeem your reputation in the word - so vote for him! Vote McCain at your own peril....

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    idtm200810/10/08 Report as spam
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    It just proves a point my grandfather has alway said. Dont bite the hand that feeds you. McCain is already bought by the CEO's.

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    dewolves10/10/08 Report as spam
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    One word: "Duh"

    Robin Hood Obama and his merry men will tax the rich and give to the poor.

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    dewolves10/10/08 Report as spam
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    Correction... unfairly steal from the industrious and give to the lazy and stupid.

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    barcodeguy10/10/08 Report as spam
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    I just had to reply to mcarbone, the CEO. I am a college degreed middle aged white guy, and I have been downsized from my job by a company who also cut the pay of those remaining by 70%. Most of my major customers have moved their administrative functions offshore to save money or avoid taxes. Bill Gates complains that he can't get enough visas to bring in imported programmers while using them as leverage to drive down the salaries of the U.S. programmers who have to compete with the lower wage immigrants. I would like to know how many of the CEO's in the survey are voting McCain because they are worried about their incomes being taxed, and loopholes being closed. The trickle down economics of the Bush administration have not worked. I find it especially humorous, when the CEO of my former company told all of the administrative employees, (who usually received annual bonuses) that profits were down and they would not be giving them out. Within two weeks, however, the two owners of the company each bought a new Jaguar, and a Porsche. I guess things are really tough at the top.

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    nhersman10/10/08 Report as spam
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    Really? All CEOs are horrible? C'mon folks... The CEO of my company just happens to be awesome. DO NOT place him in the same category as those from Fanny and Freddy, PLEASE. As a country we need to quick polarizing things. Nothing is Always or Never. This is why bipartisism doesn't work. No one is able to conceed that the other side has some validity.

    To the subject in hand. No one, woman/man or company wants to pay an average of $50k more in federal income taxes. This is why they do not like Obama's plan.

    Please, do not pass your electorial judgement based on this article. Do you own homework and make an INDEPENDENT decision.

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    barcodeguy10/10/08 Report as spam
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    Everyone says Obama is weak on national defense. We won't have to worry about our national defense much longer. Before long, the worthless dollar, and the economic mess the speculators have foisted on the American public, will allow the foreign countries to buy us at a bargin price. Then National security won't be a problem, because they won't want to destroy assets they already own.

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    sharon297110/10/08 Report as spam
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    I guess I am a little surprised that bnet offered this article as something of value. It is clearly no surprise. However, it is, in my opinion, no value. We already know that CEOs of most organizations are not in touch with the knowledge that bnet offers (which I believe to be of great value). The "survey" to the article points, survey's the out of touch CEOs of our country. We are looking for the thoughts of the more innovated organizations and I don't think you will find them represented well by CEO magazine.

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    HenryT51610/10/08 Report as spam
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    Niether candidate or party for that fact have any clue about economics, business or many grass roots issues of the majority. They have all made terrible mistakes in regards to economics and rely on too much hope and support from allies around the world. The world needs the US more than the reverse. As you saw the American market problem has great adverse affects to the global economy than any other one country. Yet we have no reall politiiian or leader in Washington who will be interested in tackling the problem at hand. They all would rather discuss their ideology and force that agenda on the American people and the world than correct their collective mess.

    As after the 1950's nuclear attack exercises, if either party take full control of all houses and the White House you might as well get under your desks, bend over and kiss your ARSE goodbye!!

    Just to give some of you an example. Obama is going to increase the 'Capital Gains Tax'. What he and his advisors don't realize there will be no 'Capital Gains' for years to come until the market regains it former highs and then some.

    The Bailout / Recue Plan is a hoax for socialism to take over our country. Both candiadte were for this fiasco!!! Great Ghosts!!

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    bobs113010/10/08 Report as spam
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    I'm surprised it's only a 4 to 1 margin.

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    barcodeguy10/10/08 Report as spam
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    dewolves - You say steal from the hard working and industrious, to give to the lazy and stupid? I guess you would call the guy working on the assembly line lazy and stupid, or the attorney for one of the major aircraft companies who just lost her job, stupid as well. Or, as I witnessed first hand, the middle management employees of Worldcom who worked their asses off only to lose their jobs. Since the begining of time, those in power have sought to stay in power, and whatever means was necessary to do so was ok.
    Once a politican gets in office, the majority of their time is spent raising the money to stay there. Why does Congress get a different health care plan than the rest of the country? Why is the Federal Goverment retirement so much better than Social Security?
    Because They vote it for themselves, and the rest of the country pays for it.

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    CEOS favour protecting obscene incomes

    LOL! What they really meant to say is "Obama would be a disaster for overpaid incompetent losers like us who want, above all, to protect our ridiculously high salaries, bonuses, commissions & other compensation even as we help run this country into the ground."

    In other news: Brain-dead snake-handling reality-challenged religious freaks favour McCain over Obama.

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    Cybercamp1310/10/08 Report as spam
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    Hej all you cool-aid drinkers out there. Get past the headlines from CNN and start checking out the facts! The reason we are in this mees is becuause the socialist party wanted to make sure that "everyone" in the country got a loan even if they didn't have a job! This was all a backdoor socialism program and now it has all come to roost. Come on; wake up! Didn't you see the likes of Barney Freak and his cronies madly defending Fredie Mac the other day; saying there was nothing wrong, no need to change regulation or rules for borrowing? Everything is perfect! Oh I forgot, you guys didn't get that broadcast on CNN. How do you think this credit crunch came about; use your brain for a second. The jobless rate has not fallen at all or very little in 6-8 years yet all these "folks" are letting their house forclose; why do you think this is happening? Because they could not afford the house, car, pool, hummer, jeep, jewelry, side loan, etc. in the first place! The loan sharks were just doing what the guvment let them do; and they were just raking in the dough!

    So go ahead and vote the dali bama in! Higher taxes and big government programs are just what we need right now! ha! Be careful what you ask for though!

    All you bastions of industry out there; stop watching CNN and start learning about what is really going on in your country. The dems have shown they will lie, cheat, steal, pack the voting box, help illegals vote, give hand outs, promise the moon, just to mention a few; to get elected.

    By the way; the CEOs of the country are just trying to save their businesses from being raided by the dems. Stop being so dopey. The dems want to take money from their business and give it away to more folks that can't, won't or don't want to get a job or an education.

    Man you guys are starting to sound like you have really bought into that CNN crap! Listen I am going to let you in on a big secret...CNN is a left wing, socialist leaning, news slanting, say anything to get the bama eleected, media outlet! So go ahead and elect the bama; but don't come back later and say you weren't warned.

    I do admit however, that I am really miffed at the way the Pubs have gone off target with the wild spending and not winding the war down fast enough. They deserve to get spanked. If we were smart, we would de-elect all incumbents on both sides of the aisle but I know you guys would never do such a radical thing on your side. You like those handouts too much don't you! You go girl! Let's just all go socialist and all third world and get it over with!

    I may stop subscribing to BNET becuase I thought you dudes could think for yourself; but some of the stuff I have seen in this column about the CEOs of our country really stinnks. 98% of the CEOs are really good, intelligent, hard working folks who have built businesses so you can have a job even if your education did not sink in...

    Thanks and have a great time with socialist thing! It has proven to be so successful around the world...

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    Ls112610/10/08 Report as spam
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    Ditto the pass on McCain. I am a small business owner
    providing health care to senior citizens and disabled
    adults. I am against privitization of entitlement programs
    on a national level. That's already happened in my state
    (Texas) and it has proven terribly confusing for
    beneficieries to navigate. I am convinced more of the
    same will be trouble for my business and for many others
    like it throughout the country.

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    betts.michael10/10/08 Report as spam
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    I find it amazing how all CEO's are being lumped in with the corrupt ones....yeah, why ask them? I'm sure everyone on this posting list knows the pressure of meeting payrolls and providing the needs for thousands of families. Welcome to the new America...where Obama will be King and it's an all you can eat buffet and "class warfare" will be the evening entertainment.

    "Entitlement America" has now passed the 50% mark...God help us.

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    Personally if I was in the top wealth bracket I would be thankful and be willing to pay my share. The middle class are struggling. I guess the wealthiest do not worry about paying food bills, or heating bills, or healthcare. They waste. The middle class shouldnt be paying what the top are, its ABOUT TIME THAT CHANGES!!!!! That is just pure greed. I agree everyone should have the same health care as the Democrats and Republicans that we taxpayers pay for, they should pay for their own!! Its time the greed stops. Quit talking about Obama that way, its an insult for us smart people! Obama cares about the poor, middle class, Seniors and Children, and Biden is one of the smartest most intelligent on defense and has been around a long time. Get with it, again say your racist and against a black man winning and quit looking for other excuses!!!

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    StuGreen10/10/08 Report as spam
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    I haven't see one reply to evanreamer, so I'll reply.

    Evanreamer, this reminds me of a radio show I heard once. There were two Christian theologians who were yelling at each other, arguing about when the stone was rolled back from Jesus' tomb. They were using logical and physics arguments and I was starting to laugh because the whole thing was beyond ordinary experience.

    On cue, a Native American calls in and points out that God could have done anything. After all Jesus had recently walked on water and risen from the dead. His point was: why argue over moot trifles?

    In his case, he was responded to. He was blasted by the host and then hung up on. Then it was back to the comedy.

    I agreed with the caller.

    "You all suck." won't win you any friends here, I'm sure. And though there is some nagging feeling in some that we should, no one is leaving.

    Obama and McCain supporters represent the theologians arguing over the stone. Asking us to leave puts the argument into a new context, just as the Native who pointed out that God could have done anything did. Seen from your point of view, Cons vs Dems doesn't mean much just as exactly what time of day the stone moved didn't mean much except to the pride of the theologians.

    Not replying to you is the same as saying you are disrespectful and irrelevant.

    There are sins that cannot be resolved because they are too big. I hear you, but I don't think much will be done.

    My guess is that if you ran for president, CEO's would favor your opponent, whoever that might be, about 1000 to 1.

    You might as well be talking to a brick wall.

    My take on the Cons vs Dems is that it matters some, but not much.

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    TexasRICH610/10/08 Report as spam
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    Where was the question to either candidate that personal responsibility, private property rights, and pursue of happiness were the principles to run/operate/lead government?

    If you have a job be the best...if you lead a company then add value. Let's stop whining and start doing...you can never go wrong doing right. Lead, follow or get out of the way...

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    Swedehill10/10/08 Report as spam
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    My goodness! Look at you all. Fear got you to vote
    Bush into office and now, like a bunch of Lemmings,
    fear and anger are getting you to vote for someone
    who has no clue about what he is getting into. Yes, I
    am angry about what is happening, but I have also
    lived in a Socialist Government for a quarter of my life.
    It's not Utopia. If you want 60% of the national product
    to become paper pushing and bureaucracy and a
    system that encourages people to become dependant
    on government subsidies...well, then socialism is for
    you. I would also suggest that you get off of the
    couch. The problem is with our culture. We want quick
    fixes and short term solutions and immediate
    satisfaction. This is exactly what got us here in the
    first place. Both parties are guilty of this including each
    person who lives beyond their means. I urge you to
    take emotions out of the mix and really look at who
    has experience, who can reach out to both sides and
    most importantly, think long term without selling out
    our country. I also urge everyone to take a deep look
    into how you can change this situation into a positive.
    Government isn???t going to bail us out of this one...we
    are...so stop whining and do something positive for
    this country.

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    It's shocking how many posters on this board have absolutely no grasp of the economic issues facing this country and who is to blame for it. Deluded posters who simply categorize all CEO's as fat, white, stogie-smoking thieves are letting a few notorious examples paint the view of corporate America in its entirety.

    The fact is, corporate executives are on the front lines of the short- and long-term problems facing American companies, and armed with that knowledge they understand Obama would be an absolute train wreck. Obama has made no illusions that he intends to raise taxes both on the personal and corporate level. This is the absolute worst response you can have for an economy in recession, and in fact is the same policy (along with increased isolation from global trading partners, which Obama also espouses) that led to the Great Depression.

    Furthermore, posters who argue CEO's are to blame for this economic mess ignore the history of the past 30 years. We face a credit crisis because of Democrat-led initiatives forcing financial institutions to extend credit for home loans to people who can't afford them. From the Carter administration, to the Clinton administration, and continuing with notable Democrats in Congress (Chris Dodd, Barney Frank, and Obama to name a few) Democrats have turned their economic ignorance into a national-turned-global financial implosion. And now we want to turn over another branch of government to these imbeciles? People who would choose to put Obama in the White House do so at their peril as well as our nation's.

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    I am an Englishman living in Canada. I am traditionally very left wing. However, I hope McCain get's in, but has to fight against an overwhelming majority of Democrats. The balance would be good, as I felt it was when Clinton was in power. Plus I don't find Obama sincere or realistic.

    CEO's have a lot to lose personally with Obama as they all make a lot of cash. So, they are hardly objective. However, very few people are down there!

    It amazes me to see how polarized people are in the USA. They support their political parties like a Football team. Whatever the score you cheer for "your" team. Folks in America need to stop saying "I am a Democrat or I am a Republican" and listening to the crap that biased radio show hosts spout in favor. The intelligent undecided needs to grow. Rush Limbagh(spelling) is a prime example of what is wrong in America and his show is an insult to your fine nations intelligence. The left wing hosts are almost as bad, but him.... it makes me laugh listening!

    Just a veiw from outside teh gold-fish bowl! - Steve

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    CEOs: on the whole the most unimaginative, uninspired and self-important group of people I have ever encountered. That they would vote to preserve their own narrow interests is no surprise. You may consider me another "deluded" poster, but clearly the idea of a "just few bad apples in the corporate barrel" is becoming laughable.

    On the whole "leaders" of corporations have shown a blatent disregard for the well-being of employees, consumers and society at large, all the while congratulating themselves as being the smartest guys in the room. Absolutely pathetic.

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    DallasDave10/10/08 Report as spam
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    Can anyone tell me how many of these CEOs were also in that position, current company or otherwise, during the Clinton administration? My guess is most of these current crooks were the heroes during the "savior" years gone by.

    People need to wise up and understand that presidential economic policies don't change things overnight. We are just now entering the waning effects of Clinton's legacy.

    Final request - please do your homework before responding about full economic impact of executive policy, with the Great Depression as your latest starting point...

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    gdyson10/10/08 Report as spam
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    Wow! I suspected that many responses would be polarizing, but I'm always amazed at the level of vitriol with which many speak of Senator Obama. No, I'm not surprised that CEO's prefer McCain - I don't think that's news.

    I am continually disappointed with how extreme some of the anti-Obama views are. I can respect that some folks may prefer McCain. I would hope that your preference for McCain would be on the merits - his Tax Plan, his Education Policy, his Energy Plan, etc.

    All of Obama's plans can be accessed from the Obama site. Obama's tax plan has been reviewed by 4 independent non-partisan organizations, and each organization says that the Obama plan can work well. That's just one reference.

    All of these comments regarding Obama's name, Bill Ayers, Obama's motivation for hate... it all goes to show how many people focus on fear, prejudice, bias, and just plain ignorance. When I was young, I used to think that my generation would be the generation to change America's thinking. I am in my mid-forties and I'm saddened to see that nothing has changed and that hate, bias, ignorance, and intolerance still reign supreme in America.

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    barcodeguy10/10/08 Report as spam
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    Let see - Where to begin.distile_sprain, you are somewhat correct. The Clinton administration, along with the liberal left, "forced" institutions to lend to borrowers who were risky to increase home ownership and give more peolpe a chance at the "American Dream". The Wall Street investment banks were all to eager to go with the mark to market practices that allowed them to make obscene fortunes on the deregulated loans. These were only backed my insurance policies rather than deposits. When housing prices declined, and jobs were lost, one of the major insurers, and benefeciaries of the deregulation, AIG, could not cover them. Saying they were "forced" to make these loans is ludicrous. They were unregulated, and saw a great way to take advantage of uneducated buyers. Some of whom could have qualified for conventional loans. No, but the "free market" (otherwise known as greed) took over.If the economy was doing well, and people had jobs, and housing prices were going up, everything would be fine. One problem, We don't make anything in this country anymore. As multinational companies moved as much of their operations as possible overseas to (and I love this), "increase shareholder value", the american workers got squeezed. I am not for protectionism, but I am for fairness, regulation, and trade policies that put american workers on an even footing with the rest of the world. someone said that the American worker is the most productive in the world. If so, why do companies with an international footprint seek to find the lowest cost, least regulated countries, with the most favorable tax laws, and trade agreements? To - Let's say it all together now, "Increase shareolder value". This does nothing for the U.S. worker. Unless of course, they are lucky enough to have the excess cash that they don't need for things like food, their mortgage, gas, or their kid's college education, to be a "shareholder". Foreign countries will help to prop us up through the investments of their Sovergien Wealth Funds. We're a good buy right now. Too bad we're spending ten billion dollars a month in Iraq when we should be spending it here. And oh, Obama get's it. The "Surge" worked. As any military historian will attest, if you throw enough bodies at the enemy, you will always win. But again, maybe those bodies should have been sent to Afganistan instead of Iraq in the first place. Bin Laden said that they would fight us on all fronts, both militarily, and economically. He's not going to have to, were doing it ourselves.

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    I agree with distile_sprain. I expected a higher level of
    discourse at bnet, but the Obama supporters just can't
    engage in reasoned argument. Most of the comments
    are truly sad. They reveal a tragic depth of ignorance
    about economics, finance, work, and the two
    candidates. I'm not a big fan of McCain, but you can't
    raise taxes in a troubled economy just because Bill
    Clinton raised taxes. Barry O doesn't seem to realize
    that the Clinton economy was a bubble that burst in
    2000. Nor can you give a tax "cut" to the 40% of the
    US population that pays no taxes. You force their
    neighbors to pay them a monthly stipend, but you
    can't cut their taxes. Barry O is just demagoging this
    crisis and pandering to people's ignorance. CEO's--
    though not perfect--know this. Moreover, this crisis
    was largely created the Congress, the CRA, and the Fed
    (which is not part of the "Bush Administration"), not by
    "corporate greed" as both candidates keep saying.

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    stevebergg10/10/08 Report as spam
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    Again from the outside... I remember in the last election you guys were all blaming Clinton for the woes of teh economy.

    Honestly, if the Republicans new of these mistakes, what did they do to correct them? Surely after 8 years those changes would have kicked in?

    The only folks blaming Clinton for the economy now are those that listen to the right wing press and it makes them look foolish.

    If your favorite sports team sucked, and teh coach blamed the coach from 8 years ago and the players he picked, would you believe him? Or would you maybe ask him what he did to trade away the bad players. Like it or not folks, you won the Superbowl under Clinton and you have been the laughing stock of the league since.

    As I stated earlier I hope Mcain get's in. But please, make your Republicn leaders BE ACCOUNTABLE for the results! Many of you are knocking CEO's on here, but I find most of them take personal accountability seriously. Stop before you type more "Clinton is to Blame" notes and ask yourself, could my party have done anything to stop this.

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    barcodeguy10/10/08 Report as spam
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    steveberg, We didn't win the Superbow under Clinton. No President is solely responsible for the economic ups and downs of the country. But the regulators, and speculators are. Clinton's good fortune was fueled by the dot com frenzy and speculation. After some high profile successes, the CEO's of off the wall startups and speculators on Wall Street, saw fit to invest in companies that had no substance or value. When the party was over and everyone sobered up, the hangover was tremendous. To be successful as a country, we need to make, or have, (like oil) something that the rest of the world wants to buy. Regardless of which party is in power, unless we level the global playing field, require that our trading partners respect environmental and human rights laws, and invest in technology HERE, rather than outsource to the lowest bidder, we will never dig ourselves out of the mess

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    Good points bar code guy. I agree Clinton's policies cannot be given all teh credit for teh good times, 50% would be kind! But 8 years on to blame him for the down turn is by extension of the same logic much more of a stretch! Folks down there are SOOO polarized they cannot see beyond their favourite parties jersey colors!

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    Just a thought

    After watching the debates between McCain and Obama, this thought came to mind. Through out the debates John McCain continually mentions that he is the original Maverick and all of the changes he tried, key word here - tried, to enact. He also mentioned that quite a few of these changes he supported failed to pass through congress. If he was this ineffective in his 20 years in government as a Representative and a Senator, how effective/persuasive is he going to be as President? Just a thought.

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    Well, I think we are to blame for the economy. We the people don't take responsibility to examine who we vote for, or hold them accountable for their mistakes. Barrack will change this country forever. As a veteran who has fought and killed for our freedom, I hope it survives so my kids can be as free as I am (as I write this response). We need a leader who can set clear objectives and priorities: Security, Jobs, the debt, than health care, social security, etc.. We need a leader, to bad we don't have one.

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    kucinich10/10/08 Report as spam
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    Granted, Obama's track record is thus far pretty thin. HOWEVER, the few key judgments he's made have been solid (e.g., his early opposition to the Iraq debacle, his recognition that we can't drill our way to enegy independence). Even more important: the man is a LEARNER, who will absorb, process, and act on the information he needs to lead this country out of the current morass. In contrast, McCain is an incurious lug, lacking in intellectual curiosity, beholden to the same free-market/degerguate-at all-costs-madmen who created this mess. I'll take my chances on Obama's high potential over McCain's a proven record of failure any time.

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    Canti9910/10/08 Report as spam
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    oh how polarized we are here in this blog, Someone stated that because I get sick of hearing the blame game, finger pointing, and that I woke up this morning black, out of work, and think of Uncle Sam as my sugar daddy. deseppo, I hope your ego feels better from bashing,

    Well i did wake up this morning as a white male, in my 40's and still owning my own company, Hmmm I was just trying to point out the polarization here, it's us vs. them. That does not solve the problems, it only feeds ones ego and piss the other off.

    I do not lean to the left or right, I read and read some more, never just one shock jock station, and do the best I can to rid the agenda, so to get the best picture of what will happen if either one gets in.

    Mccain still has a problem with his goldwater ideologies, while Obama has scared many of those that have enjoyed the luxury of bush years, so the jury is still out.

    Make a sound decision and put your ego in check, it is ok to agree to disagree, we are not in a all about America mode anymore, old tactics will not fly, we have to open our eyes and get back to what Americans are capable of, leading the world in technology and innovation. I am not going to bite on the bashing on here, it solves nothing

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    glhayes10/10/08 Report as spam
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    CEO's are not very credible in the best of times and I am sure the current environment we're in right now doesn't make them any more credible. Thanks, but no thanks CEO's I'll make up my own mind on who to vote for. As to Harry Schmedlap who wrote, "If America is collectively stupid enough to elect him (meaning Obama), then we???ll get what we deserve." Well Mr. Scmedlap, we've already demonstrated our collective stupidity by voting for "GW" not once, but twice.

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    Missverstanden6810/10/08 Report as spam
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    It's not suprising that McCain would get support from CEOs considering the fact that he never mentioned the middle class even ONCE during the debate the other night.

    I'm confused. Didn't McCain himself say he wasn't very knowledgeable about economic policies? It never ceases to amaze me how OFTEN right wingers OVERLOOK or excuse RECENT TRANSGRESSIONS in their own party but will dredge up PERCEIVED ONES and ones they can manipulate public perceptions on from YEARS PAST on their opponents.

    I know authoritarian conservatives and their followers THINK that by bashing Obama they should be able to win by a small margin. And they are hoping their HATE AND SPECULATE CAMPAIGN will win. CEOs are banking on this as well. After all, they really don't care about their employees. As long as they out earn the lowest by 1000% why should they? Who cares that they are outnumbered by the people who make less that $50k just by SHEER NUMBERS of about 300K to one? If I were a ethically bankrupt CEO I'd be more worried about people coming to their senses about my excesses and my gains during their sufferring and begin to take to the streets by demonstrating against me personally on my own property because after all it's WAY EASIER to do that then for me to part with my ill gotten revenue. After all,

    It's funny how much the right really underestimates HOW MUCH PEOPLE HATE GEORGE BUSH and how the LOT of them are really more fearful of Bush Policies: The remix being in the white house in January of 2009. Some responder said that he didn't care how much CEOs made since it wasn't with tax dollars. Really? Do you really think a CEO didn't use a large contribution or as I like to call it CORPORATE WELFARE 'gift' to allow his company to make more money? Where's the indignation towards that?

    And for all of you that think that an Obama presidency is a welcome mat to european and other foreign countries let me ask you: When's the last time you called a help desk for any of the stuff that you own (which by the way isn't made in america and hasn't been FOR YEARS) and got a person on the phone who's first language was ENGLISH? Yet you're confident that Obama will turn this into a socialist nation? Didn't we JUST BAIL OUT a whole bunch of financial institutions who, by the way, TOOK ADVANTAGE of the lack of knowledge most americans have about financial management (because we don't teach that in schools because we figure 'less is more') by OFFERING low income people who THEY KNEW because they work with numbers ALL DAY LONG that these people WOULD NEVER be able to afford these ARMS they were touting. And yes, CLINTON WAS PART OF THE PROBLEM. That's why Mrs. Clinton lost! Because she didn't even want to TALK about how her own husband helped these companies deregulate the banking industry.

    Whoever wins after January 1, 2009 the next 1460 days will definitely be interesting. I know if McCain wins SNL will have alot more material!

    At least even if when all have to suffer we might as well suffer with a smile.

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    noconsulo4910/10/08 Report as spam
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    Wow! Are all of you Obama supporters really that blind or unwilling to do your own research on Obama? Have you checked where this person came from? Everyone was so shocked by our attack on 9/11 by Middle East terrorists and now you're all wanting to vote them all in as our President.

    Who do you think is backing him and advising him on a daily basis. As a young "poor" community organizer back in the 80's, where did he get all his money to afford his Ivy League education. Start looking into his life and the life of those that are "advising" him. These are facts that you can all research on-line if you dig deep enough rather than listening to the media. DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH PEOPLE - QUIT ACTING LIKE SHEEP THAT FOLLOW THE "SHEPHERD".

    There's an article going around the Internet that sums up Obama's life from 1979 to now. Some (BUT NOT ALL) of this information is disputed on www.snopes.com. Too much of the information can be verified but it's interesting that the Obama camp is made up of some very creative and influential people. I'm sure Chicago has lots and lots of hidden "bodies".

    Obama's senior advisor, Valerie Jarrett, was born in Sharaz, Iran, and is now a part of the Chicago influential elite. And, if you happen to make the effort to read some of these articles (just out of curiousity), Obama's college roommates, from 1979, were born in Pakistan? After Obama's trip to Indonesia, Pakistan, and Africa in 1981 is when he suddenly had lots of money to afford his expensive education. These same old college buddies are in charge of all those 'small' Internet campaign contribution for Obama. Where is that money coming from? The poor and middle class in this country? Or could it be from the Middle East?

    On September 7, 2008, The Washington Times posted a verbal slip that was made on 'This Week' with George Stephanapoulos. Obama on talking about his religion said, 'My Muslim faith'. When questioned, 'he made a mistake'. Some mistake! For those who are not familiar with the Muslim religion, a significant part of their worship is tied to praying at sunrise and sundown. It is very interesting that out of all of the millions of symbols Obama could have chosen for the wing of his airplane that he chose one that depicts a sun rising behind a flag. If he really wanted to get away from the Muslim image why did he chose a symbol with Muslim implications. If you wanted to depict the statement "In the latter days the sun will rise form the West" I can think of no better illustration than the symbol Obama has chosen....a sun rising behind a flag of the US ("the West").

    In an Oct. 4, 2008 Toledo Blade article entitled ???Hunting Mr. Good Will. WHO is 'Will, Good'?" columnist Jack Kelly revealed that a Mr. Good Will, who Kelly says lists his employer as "Loving" and his profession as "You" ??? has contributed an astounding 1,000 times to the Barack Obama campaign, all in amounts of $25 or less which add up to $17,375 ??? far more than the legal limit of $4,600 or $2,300 each for the primary and general election campaigns ??? 1000 times! (Remember who's in charge of these "small" donations in Obama's team.)

    Noting that Obama has raised a whopping $223 million in contributions of less than $200, Kelly wrote that candidates are not required to disclose the names of those who contribute less than $200, and Mr. Obama has not. But he added that the Federal Election Commission does require campaigns to keep a running tally of contributions and to disclose the identity of donors once their total contributions exceed $200.

    Kelly added, "Making contributions on credit cards via the Internet ??? as both Good Will and Doodad Pro did ??? makes it easier for foreigners to contribute. Web logger Pamela Geller (Atlas Shrugs) reported three Palestinians living in a refugee camp in Gaza tried to donate $33,500 to the Obama campaign last year. They were caught only because the amount was far above the legal limit. If foreigners donate in amounts less than $200, their illegal involvement would be virtually undetectable."

    Mr. and Mrs. Obama lives are "orchestrated" daily by Valerie Jarrett. Why have they chosen to keep her influence under wraps so carefully? Do your research on those who are advising and providing the wherewithall for Obama to go from a $12,000 per year Communittee Leader to making over $1 Million per year and skyrocketing to the possition he's in now. (Copies of the Obamas federal tax return on the Obama Campaign website show that the couple had an adjusted gross income of $1,655,106 in 2005 and $983,826 in 2006.)

    Since when is over a million dollars per year the salary of a "Middle Class family man"? I'm considered to be in the Middle Class bracket and make less than 5% of what Mr. Obama's "adjusted" gross income was in 2005. Isn't he now in the same "class" as these CEO's you're all slamming?

    I've never been political or associated with either Democrat or Republican parties. However, I'm intelligent enough to make my own summation of the facts. The possible outcome of this election is too scary not to be intelligent about our choice for President. Just the POSSIBILITY that any of this stuff is true will make me vote for the lesser of the two evils. I'd hate to be under the leadership of someone who even remotely smells of a "Hussein" theology.

    All of the above information can be researched on-line. In a few hours I was able to read a huge amount of information. Check it out - Wikipedia, encyclopedia, Barack Obama; Tony Rezko; Valerie Jarrett: Daily Times - Obama visited Pakistan in 1981; The Washington Times - September 7, 2008; The Times May 10, 2008, even www.Snopes.com.

    Even if you all are 100% positive that all this information are "lies" by the Republican agenda, aren't you even a little concerned that it might not be. That maybe some of it is true and that Obama could possibly be a well thought out and planned "weapon of mass destruction." At least make the effort to do your own research and not be sucked in by Obama's "charismatic aura". Even Hitler was charismatic. And, as written so well by a TPM blogger, "It isn't the comparison of Obama to Hitler; it's the disturbing sense that masses of people are not using their critical thinking capabilities, but are perceiving only romaticized images through subtle appeals to their emotion." "What you will accept from your nominee during the election is only a taste of what you will be forced to accept during his term as President."

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    Wow! Here is a lively exchange of ideas! Just the thing you would expect in a free society where citizens are unfettered as to their free expression of political beliefs. I have scanned many recent posts. There is one core concept that should tie us all together:

    It is that we are Americans.

    We are citizens of a country that was started as a response to oppression. It was started as a response to excessive governmental regulation and control in the lives of the citizenry. It was founded on the basis that freedom provides the best overall environment for the highest productivity of the greatest number of citizens. We battled many times in our history to sustain that freedom. We also even battled between ourselves to assure that freedom for all citizens. Finally, we have, collectively made great strides, as a country to remove vestiges of historical barriers to freedom. We've stood against tyranny and we are still the shining city on the hill that is the beacon of freedom for the world. Are you citizens of the world? or are you Americans? If you are citizens of the world, then I suggest you move to the world. Just leave . . . you do belong here - you belong in the world, with your fellow citizens of the world. If you decide you are an American, then I suggest you go to your local library and spend some time reading The Constitution of your country. Read The Bill of Rights and the other Amendments. Concentrate on the enumerated powers of the branches of government. Then wrap it up with a reading of George Washington's final address to the country. The United States was founded on the premise that freedom and free enterprise have the greatest potential to deliver the highest average standard of living to the greatest number of people versus other economic and governmental systems. Our history, as a country, has substantiated the wisdom of our founding fathers. If this is the case, then why tamper? The plan as stated in our Constitution is as valid today as it was almost 250 years ago. Our country was founded on personal concepts of self-reliance, not the whiney sniveling of lazy slugs waiting for their dole from the nanny-state. Our mistake, as a country started with FDR, who deserves no credit for delivering us from a depression ? WWII did that and it has compounded with countless deviations from our constitutional directives. We need to re-align our country with its constitution. We should enact term limits for all nationally elected offices in order to minimize incestuous self-sustaining deviations from center. We need to take a stand, as a people, for freedom and against government growth and for free enterprise and against socialism.

    One last thing. There was one writer with a recent inference that some of the more grounded thinkers writing in this forum were ?showing their age?. I am not all that old ? surely not as old as that writer may think. However, the thing I would never do is mistake the experiences of whatever number of years I?ve lived as a substitute for the lessons of history, of cyclical economic patterns, and of basic human nature.

    "Barack" is Kenyan for "Jimmy Carter". "Obama" is Kenyan for "or worse".

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    pablokuck@...10/10/08 Report as spam
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    WOW! Guys that make millions per year are supporting
    the guy that is going to give them more tax breaks! What
    a surprise. Small business owners like myself should
    support Obama.

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    McCain is English for lost. The GOP is getting exactly what it deserves - a butt kicking. Disdain for government does not absolve the responsibility to govern. The GOP in its present form is a corrupt party, void of ideas and hell bent on taking us to war everywhere on the planet b/c you think Jesus is coming back. Get over it. Your time is over. Don't worry though. The pendulum will swing back in about eight years, maybe four.

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    Who cares ? They can rarely manage companies, are greedy schmucks who destroy one company to move to another with no accountability and then laugh all the way to the bank.

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    I would too if I did not have too if someone vows to make me pay my fair share. If I contributed to his campaign for government favors. If I can lobby for the government/taxpaters to bail me out of a jam then later take my team on a $400,000+ retreat at the taxpayers retreat. We all know raising taxes is bad for business but the taxes should be reasonable. The CEOs have a "Let them eat cake mentality"

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    pep alum10/10/08 Report as spam
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    Wow, what a surprise!

    I think it is safe to say that most CEOs are Republicans who believe in free markets, small government and no regulation - that is until they need to be bailed out. Such hypocrites.
    God Bless America, God Bless our Troops and God, please give America the courage and vision to elect Mr. Obama.

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    Who care what the old boys club think. In the words of a younger co-worker "I will be glad when those old guys become extinct they are impeding progress

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    charlie_boulder10/10/08 Report as spam
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    If you want to see REAL corruption you need to look at government and GSE's. Many of the fat cat CEO's you are railing against are undoubtable greedy and corrupt but they steal the money of investors, people who voluntarily invest in their companies.

    The corrupt in DC, politicians and lobbyists, steal YOUR money and MY money through taxes which are taken from me against my will and at the threat of jail time. And the size is not even close. Raines, Johnson, Gorelic, Dodd, Frank, Obama and others stole money out of Freddie and Fannie and have destroyed our entire economy ALL ON THE BACKS of tax payers. TRILLIONS of dollars. Makes Enron look like your kids piggy bank.

    Stop being idiots! Obama WILL have the most corrupt scumbags that you've never heard of from Chicago controlling the White House. He is in more pockets of Chicago scumbags, than mayor Daly is. Get a grip poeple and do some research.

    1) Obama picked a church which preaches Black Liberation Theology - look it up, it is primarily about "Black Supremacy".

    2) Obama was picked by unrepentant terrorist Bill Ayers at the age of 31 to chair the Annenberg Challence where he gave out over $100M NOT to public schools but to radical community groups which advocate Socialism and the indoctrination of school children (as they've always done in Socialist and Communist countries)

    3) His largest financial backer. Tony Rezko, to whom Obama steered at least $14M of Illinois taxpayer money is currently in jail on multiple felony counts and is starting to name names.

    How many scandals and scumbags will you forgive this guy?

    McCain is an American hero who was tortured mercilessly for years for OUR COUNTRY.

    He has fought Bush on countless fronts including the original strategy for the war in Iraq. McCain said that we needed more troops and has been proven right.

    He fought Bush (and Obama) on spending every year.

    He saved us billions in taxpayer money on a corrupt military contracts.

    He fought for regulating Freddie and Fannie over two years ago while there was still time to do something about it. And, Obama, Dodd and Frank stood in the way.

    Obama has DONE NOTHING positive arriving in the Senate. In Illinois he spoke against a law designed to ensure that babies born alive after a failed abortion get medical care. Because of Obama the practice of letting babies die alone in a utility closet continues to this day. He started campaigning for President after being in the Senate less than a year! He didn't pass a SINGLE piece of meaningful legislation, not one! The hubris of this guy is impossible to comprehend.

    The gullibility of the people on this blog is scary....

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    There are only two drivers in business: Fear and Greed.

    And folks, they both apply equally to both sides of the
    political debate; the differences are only what people are
    greedy for, and what they fear most.

    CEOs fear uncertainty - McCain is a known, whereas
    Obama is less so.

    We didn't need a survey to tell us the obvious.

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    charlie_boulder10/10/08 Report as spam
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    Swedehill Comment #105: Well said. If any of you missed it, please go back and read it.

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    I thought Democrats were supposed to be the whiners. Republicans are being crushed so they resort to racists lies - how about McCain accepting money from Pat Robertson who made a fortune in blood diamonds while preaching in the name of the Lord. What a joke. No President can get into office without questionable associations. The Republican Party is determined to bankrupt this country by going to war all over the globe. Ironically, the same idea that was used to crush Communism is being used to crush the US. Spend, Spend, Spend on war, war, war. Guess what? You cannot outspend terrorists. Add on the corporate welfare and it just gets worse. Go buy Alaska and live up there with Palin wirh her smart ass behavior and 1st grade intelligence.

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    b00white10/10/08 Report as spam
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    I was not aware some socialist pigs read business blogs.

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    Harry Schmedlap10/10/08 Report as spam
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    Skippy,

    You poor thing . . . your country is going to the dogs! It's all the fault of Republicans and CEO's. What are we to do? Elect a Socialist? YES!!! THAT'S IT!!! ELECTING A SOCILIST WILL SOLVE EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Skipy, you poor deluded fool.

    Some people are talking ideas and critical thinking and some are hung up on class warfare. Skippy, you are immersed in class warfare. It is your life, but CEO's aren't your enemies! They are compensated fairly and reasonably relative to their industries. They usually have spent a lot of time working very hard to rise to the positions they hold. They usually get there because they work hard, they work effectively and they are very good. Skippy, the vast majority of them really do deserve the corner office and you, Skippy, you really do deserve that cubical. Yet, despite the obvious capabilities of all these CEO's, you are so insecure, that you have to make up reasons to hate someone who does something very well - probably better than you ever will! Sorry, but Bill Gates, Steve Jobs and many other CEO's are just very good. I hope for your sake, Skippy, that YOU never get really good at something - because then someone else just like you will hate you. Get real. By the way, at $1,000,000 a year, your New Messiah is in the same class as the others you hate.

    Saying you hope America has the courage to elect Obama is like hoping somebody has the courage to cut off their leg! Skippy, I hope you have the courage to admit that courage has nothing to do with stupidity. Stupidity does! Also, bad information can lead well meaning people to disastrous conclusions (garbage in - garbage out!) So stop drinking that Kool-Aid!
    Tomorrow is the first day of the rest of your life. You don't have to be a spineless dolt anymore. Skippy, there is hope for you. Immediately begin watching Fox News. Read some Charles Krauthamer. Go watch An American Carol this weekend. Your first step to recovery is realizing that your BIG problem and it is you.

    During his administration, Jimmy Carter rode average mortgage rates up to 21%. Barack is as incompetent as Jimmy - maybe even more so. Ronald Reagan saved us from Jimmy. If we are stupid to enough to elect Barry Obama, I'm sure Sarah Palin will be able to rescue us after four hellish years.

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    Boy, you are right Boulder. Your gullibility is indeed scary! Regarding corruption and dangerous incompetency, the Bush administration sets the standard. None of us need your kind of inaccurate, sleazy, fear mongering comments. God bless America, God bless our troops and God bless the intelligent voters of our great country.

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    Don't hate the player; hate the game. And the game is darwinism, not politics. The smarter, swifter, more connected candidate will win, regardless of the world's irrelevant moral dilemmas and penchant for the most unrealistic arbitrary term in the universe..."fairness." Life's not fair. Deal with it. It'll make you, and this country, stronger and more amenable to change, which are ultimately the only traits necessary for survival (aka "success").

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    Well you guys have to know you asked for it with this article. Good intentions though as I have enjoyed most of your other reports.

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    While CEO Magazine may have found a CEO preference of 4-to-1 for McCain, I think you would see some significant CEO differences if the CEOs were stratified by size of business, compensation of the CEO, and sex of the CEO. There are a group of forward-looking CEOs (even some who make more than the $250K that would be taxed at the higher rate under the Obama tax proposal) who realize that our country and its businesses are losing our global competitiveness. Our post-WWII era of prosperity was due to a huge public investment in infrastructure, education, health care, and other human capital. We'll need to do that again to prepare for the next wave of global commerce. And, yes, if we're going to investment in the human capital and infrastructure that American business relies on to prosper (as well as provide a minimal level of health care for the citizenry and occupy Iraq), it will cost money (in the form of taxes).

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    patrick_gauthier@...10/10/08 Report as spam
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    Will we ever learn??? How can supposedly smart leaders not reflect on the painfully abvious and learn their friggen' lesson?! This is nuts! Either we change and change fast (our bad habits that is) or bend over and deserve the consequences we are living through. Enough with the blind ambition and greed already. Reaganomics are OVER!

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    charlie_boulder10/10/08 Report as spam
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    pep,

    Bush isn't on the ballot genius. You want more corruption?

    Was Paul Revere a fear monger? To socialists like yourself, probably so. He spread the word about a real, immediate and tangible threat. Those of us who have done the research on Obama are trying to do the same thing, although in a much less dramatic fashion. Not all Americans picked up their musket and ran to confront the British, many wanted to remain under British rule. Safer.

    It's much easier to just "let the government handle it". But, if you wake up one day and actually have the courage to go do a little research on the messiah and his friends you might be surprised and enlightened.

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    I really love how all of the CEO defenders insist that the Wall Street institutions were "Forced" to make these loans. Get real, they saw an opportunity to make huge amounts of money and took it. As my grandfather used to say, "Follow the money, and you'll see why things are done the way they are." When the house of cards fell down because of non of the mortgages being backed as had been traditionally required before deregulation, the over-paid Wall Street CEOs came to Washington with their hands out. I find it humurous that the government "forced" them to make billions, and they are now bailing them out at prices they could not get if they sold them on the street. But that's the American way, If you're a politician, and I helped put you in office, you better be right there when I want something in return. And to the guy who said don't lump all CEOs together. I have worked with and for many small companies, hwo's owners have put everything on the line to make them successful. I even did ok running one myself. In 99% of the companies I dealt with, once the CEO reached the point where they were comfortable, (say 30 to 40 million in sales) their true ethics and contempt for their employees came out. I currently own a business, but I would like to know where the line forms for the twenty million dollar golden parachutes like on Wall Street CEO got for seventeen days of employment. As my hero, Ted Nugent says, "People are pissed. The next step will be to take up guns."

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    All of these national security advocates think McCain will keep us safe. As someone who has firsthand experience with things like port security, let me tell you that you are kidding yourselves. Since 9/11 so little has been done to secure our country from attack that it doesen't even matter. Our next threat does not come from a country like the cold war era with Russia. We have the ability to put any country that threatens us in their place. We do not however, have the ability to stop a wacko ideologist who may already be a U.S. cirizen, who is intent on doing us harm. Does anyone remember Timothy McVey? By repairing our reputation on the world stage, we stand a much better chance of getting othe countries to work with us to fight terrorism. That doesn't mean we've got to treat them like equals, or bow to their demands. Is anyone familiar with the statement, "Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer?"
    But as I've said before, terrorists just have to sit back. We are doing a pretty good job of doing ourselves in without any help from them.

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    Obama continues to link McCain to Bush because that's all Obama and his surrogates have against McCain, and in this election, it seems he who shouts loudest, wins, regardless of the accuracy of the rants. But everyone with half a brain knows that McCain fought Bush and the Republicans countless times over the years, and that's why the Republicans at one time thought he was more of a Democrat than a true Republican. Remember McCain is "friends" with Ted Kennedy, Biden and Lieberman (all Democrats), unlike Obama who is totally beholden to his party and could never cross the aisle to compromise on anything. That Bush-McCain 'link' is all Obama has because Obama is no war hero, always votes the party line, uses the most unsavory characters to get ahead, has been voted the most liberal politician in Washington, is a typical tax-n-spend Democrat, and has no experience or record to show for -- only grand rhetoric and empty, but VERY expensive promises.

    And especially now that McCain has come up with that great economic recovery plan to allow homeowners to stay in their homes and pay their mortgages at the home's current value -- Obama is shouting louder than ever that McCain is just a continuation of Bush. His camp could not come up with a brilliant idea like McCain's (remember they're for $1 trillion worth of NEW spending and taxing large and small businesses), so they're hitting hard on the same boring lies. People who aren't mesmerized by Obama should be able to see that McCain has a plan that will help the homeowner and businesses, and by extension, allow the economy to stabilize and grow, unlike Obama's $1 TRILLION spending plan that will kill jobs, keep people forever on welfare, does not do anything for homeowners facing foreclosure and bankruptcies, cut defense spending while we're at war with radical terrorists, and worsen America's already badly beaten economy. In short, Obama will be a disaster for America, and by extension again, he'll be disastrous for the world. Of course, he's fooled so many in the last 2 years he's been campaigning, that these enamoured, gullible people refuse to see him for what he truly is -- a charlatan.

    I'll paraphrase a famous Englishman who said 'Give me the man, and he will think. Give me the crowd, and they'll be easily led.' In contemporary parlance, that refers to groupthink -- something that good managers and leaders who are seeking to make change and organizational improvement, know all too well is a hindrance to any positive change.

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    I cannot believe some of the responses to this article. How can there be so many totally naive readers out there. Get past the rhetoric that has this country so divided in the first place??? The truth is that a socialist Obama presidency at this point in our country???s history could be the final nail in our coffin. The nearly 40 years, prior to Reagan, that the liberals were in charge of our government, meaning congress not the presidency, nearly turned us into a 3rd world welfare state. It took Reagan???s conservative views and national pride, and view that in a capitalist society, you cannot separate corporations from the people???. the corporations are the people??? the stockholders??? to turn this country around, rebuild our spirit and nationalism and our strength. Now McCain is not Reagan??? and Bush is certainly not ???fiscally??? conservative??? but Obama would be the most liberal president in our history??? and with a congress controlled by the most partisan group of liberal democrats we have ever seen??? our country would start down the slippery slope to socialism to the extent that we may never recover. Sure CEOs want McCain??? not because they like him??? but because they know that Obama would be disaster??? not just for ???them??????but for our economy, for our freedoms, for our American pride. Yes, he is eloquent??? very, very eloquent??? and we have a lot of lemmings in this country right now??? more than happy to lee him lead them off a cliff; all with big old rainbow shaped grins on their face. Borrowing a sound bite from the RNC, ???Hope is not a strategy, and Change is not a destination???. Look at the fine print (if you can find it)??? Obama???s plans are not ???Change???.. they are the same old liberal and socialist ideas of a failed, arrogant party; repackaged with a shiny new rainbow.

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    Of course they do! The majority of CEOs are white, and Obama is, well, black! At the elite level, research consistently proves that CEOs favour their own... and in this case, own means white. Kanter in her seminal text "Men and Women of the Corporation" called it homo=social reproduction, whereby the power is kept amongst those in the group who are similar/alike. Women (look what happened to Hillary Clinton!) and minorities and people with disbailities rarely get a look in. What a shame, because as Albert Einstein once said: you can't solve problems with the same kind of thinking that created the problems in the first place... white, middle-class, male thinking has led to this ecomomic crisis we are all currently experiencing! Thank God I live in Australia!

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    Memo to all of the McCain-sympathizing blowhards in this comment chain trying to espouse intellectually elite trickle down economic theory. Your philosophy has been disproven and the whole world now knows it. Stop with your diatribes and go back to the school...the world has changed and your views are stale.

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    Neither choice is ideal. Want to solve something then get behind the tax reform movement and stop your whining about Fed oversight, terrorist sympathizers, lack of concern for the supply & demand economy and all the other doomsday medai BS. Get involved - www fairtax org - TODAY!

    Tax reform fixes much of all of your blogging complaints about the candidates and heads of state. Fix the bureaucracy and take back your constitutional rights!

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    While we're in Iraq, why don't we just take their oil and sell it to the Chinese to cover our trade deficit? Keep some for ourselves, and then the drilling and alternative energy debate could wait another twenty years or so. The rest of the world already hates us, and that's what the medieval kings did. If they had a bigger army, and they wanted something a weaker opponent had, they just sent their army and took it. In most cases historians considered such actions an advancement of civilization.

    This argument makes about as much sense as people saying Obama is a terrorist because he associates with a guy who protested the Vietnam War. And that McCain can keep us safe from terrorists, when our national security programs are an absolute joke.

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    Just a question for hardingmj. How is McCain's "brilliant" plan to revalue mortgages at current prices, and have the government pick up the tab, so brilliant? It is commendable by either candidate to make statements that they want to help out those in need. Many of these people were enticed into these mortgages by the brokers who profited handsomly by doing so. Now we're (the American taxpayer) left to not only bail out the Wall Street big-bucks political contribution machine, but also trying to help the people who might really need it. I say we bail out the people at the bottom first, and let the Wall Street insiders sell off a couple of houses, or a plane or two, to make ends meet.

    And michael2020, you'd better check your history. Forty years before Regan puts us somewhere around World War Two, and the economy did very well with the pent up demand for housing, hard goods, and massive infrastructure projects that kept people employed in good paying jobs that produced products manufactured here. Since corporate greed has made it necessary to compete on a global level by outsourcing anything and everything possible, the American standard of living will continue to decline to the point where it is more in line with the rest of the world. In the meantime, the idea that corporate ownership in the form of shareholder equity (current minor issues notwithstanding, as Bush ignorantly put it), is something that onlt Republicans understand is ridiculous. By the way, shareholder equity will continue to be increasingly held by people from foreign countries. An just a little news flash, many of them do not have U.S. interests at hand when they do so.

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    As a South African I'm glad I do not have to join this mud slinging party. It was good for a few laughs. I am considering cancelling my subscription to bnet.

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    Based of the premise that this information is correct, it is a testimonial to there horrible decision marking skills of these CEO s. As CEO s and "leaders" they should have the ability to learn from there mistakes. If they made that poor decision in the 2004 election and now want to make it again, there pretty dense. This country can???t stand for another 4/8 years of mistakes. Throwing darts to make critical decisions is stupid but throwing darts blind folded is dangerous.

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    When has business "leadership" ever favored a democrat? I really can't remember a time when the ratio was any different than this story. However, with all the noises heard about there not being a "dime's worth of difference" between the two, I wonder how much disinformation I am hearing. All I know is that over the past 60 years when I lived like a Republican, a Democrat was in the White House.

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    the limority report10/12/08 Report as spam
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    RE: CEOs Favor McCain 4 to 1: Survey

    shouldn't the person who plans on becoming the President of the U.S. take pride in his country and salute the U.S. flag? one would think that something so simple goes without saying...

    but, then again, maybe not... check it out:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU9iCANi02o

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    the limority report10/12/08 Report as spam
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    John McCain's Warning About Fannie Mae...

    if the CEOs who participated in the survey got a hold of this letter from McCain, warning WAY back in 2006 of the possible financial outcome that has become our reality, i don't believe they'd be very pleased. you see, had anyone heeded to McCain's letter back in 2006, when it mattered, the CEOs who managed to walk away with millions would have probably not been able to walk away with much...

    http://sweetness-light.com/archive/behold-mccains-warning-about-fannie-mae

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    totefrosch10/12/08 Report as spam
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    RE: CEOs Favor McCain 4 to 1: Survey

    GOLDEN PARACHUTE CLUB. So ...what's new? Change is needed and GPCs don't want change.

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    LBWave10/13/08 Report as spam
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    RE: CEOs Favor McCain 4 to 1: Survey

    Sounds like a slam dunk Obama ad to me. Images of McCain surrounded by CEO's giving him a big thumbs up and the tag line "McCain, preferred by CEO's 4 to 1! Maybe he could even wink too.

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    pep alum10/13/08 Report as spam
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    RE: CEOs Favor McCain 4 to 1: Survey

    Boulder,

    No, the country does not need more corruption. Regarding doing your research, just look at McCain's relationship with Charles Keating. De ja vu all over again! Also, the Alaska ethics inquiry came back with a finding that Palin abused her authority. Sound familiar...like what we have seen in the last eight years.

    It seems like you are the one who is playing it safe by wanting more of the same.

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    lwllms10/13/08 Report as spam
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    RE: CEOs Favor McCain 4 to 1: Survey

    And in these responses, I've learned how worthless this site is to me. Those on the right assume I'm living on welfare or riding the coattails of someone else.

    I've run my own business for most of my adult life. It's successful and has an impeccable reputation other than the fact that customers have to wait a while for what we produce.

    I have no problem with others making a profit and I certainly do. There is this thing called ethics and it's become one of the most scarce commodities. You can see it in our banking system today--all the banks seem to realize they've been scamming their customers and assume all others are at least as crooked and undependable as that person they see in the mirror each morning. It's created an environment where no one can trust anyone else because everyone believes everyone is a crook. I think it's generally a safe assumption these days in the corporate world.

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    rrice@...10/14/08 Report as spam
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    RE: CEOs Favor McCain 4 to 1: Survey

    This makes perfect sense because Obama doesn't understand business. This was evident during the last debate when he said that most small business make over $250,000 a year.

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    rrice@...10/14/08 Report as spam
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    RE: CEOs Favor McCain 4 to 1: Survey

    This makes perfect sense because Obama doesn't understand business. This was evident during the last debate when he said that most small business make under $250,000 a year.

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    keitheckberg10/16/08 Report as spam
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    RE: CEOs Favor McCain 4 to 1: Survey

    CEO magazine? How about another opinion. The fat cats will loose their tax write offs. Enough of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, the economy, the stock market, healthcare, etc, etc. Didn't the government bail out the CEO's who raped their companies of $$. Let's get real. Time for a CHANGE. Thanks, you have sealed my vote for Obama......................

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    cwpaul10/29/08 Report as spam
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    RE: CEOs Favor McCain 4 to 1: Survey

    While many blame the CEO's & present/past POTUSes & Congress for many of the economic ills dosed with salts of miasma tainted capitalism. We are a republic. We govern by informed consent. We invest a few people to represent us with our power and intentions. Then we doze off till the next election or something that motivates us. It is similiar to leaving your children in charge of the house while you do some chore. Somehow we are surprised, when cooking materials clutter the kitchen, the fridge is open to cool off the burned peanut-jelly sandwich in the open oven. Somehow we are more thankful that nobody got killed nor hurt in the process. Anger cools into forgiveness, because it was our decision to put them in-charge. The fault is ours: it is us. As children, we were given the rules and a basic formula. As children are immature by nature, stuff will happen all on its own; besides parents will bail us out. As roles flux & flex, there is that mystical belief that there is a 'catcher in the rye' to stop things from going too far. Individuals with immature expectations of themselves, their resources and responsabilities discovered that the 'field of dreams' obsession will not work, unless they work. People built their field of dreams and they didn't come nor even breath hard. People want a scape goat, since they will rarely ever take the blame for anything. It's a republic: everybody has to care and pitch in. The rest of the lazy won't vote, or worse blindly vote. This is how the liberals and their vigilante justice turns democracy into ugly mob rule. Everyone wants a piece of pie. McCain says "Pie for all that pitched in and earned it and wants it, the leftovers can go to the rest. Obama says, "Pie for everybody whether you like it or not, earned it or not!" Well thanks to ACORN even the dead get to vote!

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    Stephen Isienyi12/20/08 Report as spam
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    Is that not one of the plainest phenomenoms of behavioral science to fathom? If you like taking one for the team on any given day, hands up! If you don't, take your seat among the rest of us.

    Case: If you make over $250,000 or run a company that makes over $250,000 a year, do I have to tell you twice to ride with me in order to keep your taxes low. The other guy who would actually increase your taxes to make your contry better, but would leave you with less disposable income than you would have with me. Even if you have nothing tangible to accomplish with that extra money you would save by riding with me, you would still want to be in the same boat with me.

    In sum, it would take an individual of higher purpose and understanding to allow a tax increase on his income-class for the benefit of the whole system, and such individuals are a critical scarce resource in our society.

    Basic human psychology!

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