Question-and-Answer Session
Operator
(Operator Instructions) Your first question comes from Larry Klatzkin - Jefferies.
Larry Klatzkin - Jefferies
A couple questions. One, [inaudible] interest rate swap, interest expense next year of like 78 after capitalized sound in the ballpark?
Thomas Steinbauer
Yes, I would say that's reasonable at this point in time based on what we know about the credit markets. I mean, Larry, obviously that could change if the high yield markets open up and we're able to do some sub debt, which would obviously be at a higher rate than we have on our senior facility right now.
Larry Klatzkin - Jefferies
How about CapEx next year - $140, $150?
Thomas Steinbauer
In that range. We intend to have about $80 to $90 million left on Black Hawk by year end. So I guess at this point in time, in that $40 to $50 million range of maintenance CapEx again for next year, obviously subject to change based on the economy.
Larry Klatzkin - Jefferies
And then as far as looking at Missouri, you had a couple of responses from your competitors. Harrah said it didn't really do anything for anybody and Pinnacle talked about how they're going to send people and hire marketing and spend the first quarter really ramping up, not have a lot of gains and then see some real gains second quarter on.
You guys, again, you're probably the two best facilities in the state. What's your feeling, what kind of revenue gains could we be looking at?
Gordon R. Kanofsky
Well, I don't think we're in a position at this point to try to quantify it, Larry, but we appreciate your compliment about the quality of our assets. I think Harrah's obviously did not participate in the funding of the campaign. You'll have to talk to them about their thinking about it. We think it's a very significant boost. And in terms of Pinnacle's approach, obviously they seem to be targeting the high end. We think there is significant high end play that can be generated from our properties in Missouri, both St. Louis and Kansas City.
But as we said during the direct remarks, this is a major convenience factor for all guests, no matter what their level of customer is. If you remember some of the earlier days where Iowa actually had the cruise and the boats went out or in Indiana, where there were limitations on when you could actually enter the vessel as well as there were earlier in Missouri, all of those things constrained the ease of the guests.
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