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The Secret Guide to the MBA Curriculum

Tags: Entrepreneurial, MBA, Useful Skill, Useless Skill, Entrepreneurship, Management, Geoffrey James, Vision, Finance, Agenda, BNET Feature

Ever wonder what goes on behind the closed doors of graduate business schools? We’ve decoded a typical MBA curriculum (inspired by the one at Harvard Business School) and added a real-world perspective to let you know what’s worth learning and what’s a waste of your time.

Finance

Course Description:
Examines the role of finance in supporting the functional areas of a company and fosters an understanding of how financial decisions create value. Topics include basic analytical skills, principles of corporate finance, functions of modern capital markets, and risk analysis.
Most Useful Skill:
How to read a balance sheet.
Most Useless Skill:
Understanding the history of double-entry bookkeeping.
Hidden Agenda:
How to exploit investors without getting caught.

Organizational Behavior

Course Description:
Examines teams, individuals, networks, group culture, managing subordinates, establishing productive relationships with peers and seniors, developing a vision of the future, aligning the organization behind that vision, motivating people to achieve the vision, and strategic career management.
Most Useful Skill:
Ability to speak fluent biz-blab.
Most Useless Skill:
Ability to speak fluent biz-blab.
Hidden Agenda:
Increasing sales of the professor’s latest book.

Technology and Operations

Course Description:
Enables students to develop the skills and concepts needed to ensure the ongoing contribution of a firm’s operations to its competitive position. Includes process analysis, cross-functional and cross-firm integration, product development, information technology, and operations strategy.
Most Useful Skill:
Using Excel and PowerPoint to make truly spectacular slides.
Most Useless Skill:
Actually understanding what open-source software is.
Hidden Agenda:
Playing World of Warcraft during lectures in the auditorium with the wireless hotspot.

Business Strategy

Course Description:
Provides an understanding of how to sustain competitive advantage, how to generate superior value for customers by designing the optimum configuration of the product mix and functional activities. Particular attention is paid to competitive positioning, understanding comparative costs, and addressing issues such as cannibalization, network externalities, and globalization.
Most Useful Skill:
None.
Most Useless Skill:
Pretending that you’re actually running a real company.
Hidden Agenda:
Providing endless fodder for Dilbert comic strips.

The Entrepreneurial Manager

Course Description:
Teaches students how to identify potentially valuable opportunities, obtain the resources necessary to pursue an opportunity and create an entrepreneurial organization, manage the entrepreneurial organization, grow the business into a sustainable enterprise, and create and harvest value for the organization’s stakeholders.
Most Useful Skill:
How to write a business plan that might interest a venture capitalist.
Most Useless Skill:
Believing that a startup actually needs somebody with an MBA.
Hidden Agenda:
Constructing corporate bureaucracies where they’re neither wanted nor needed.

Negotiation

Course Description:
Students learn how to effectively negotiate through the use of exercises, cases, readings, and videos; learn and how external and internal negotiation has become a way of life for effective managers in a constantly changing business environment.
Most Useful Skill:
How to get a better price on your next automobile purchase.
Most Useless Skill:
None. This is actually a pretty useful course.

Hidden Agenda:
Negotiating a higher grade from your other B-school professors.

Corporate Accountability

Course Description:
Examines the legal, ethical, and economic responsibilities of corporate leaders; teaches students about management and governance systems that leaders can use to promote responsible conduct by companies and their employees; shows how personal values can play a critical role in effective leadership.
Most Useful Skill:
Ability to differentiate between what’s illegal and what’s merely unethical.
Most Useless Skill:
How to comply with Sarbanes/Oxley requirements.
Hidden Agenda:
Seeing who can cheat the most on the final exam.
 
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    malvan@...

    10/23/07 | Report as spam

    MBA

    What is the next step if MBA is not worth. I am planning for IT MBA. Pls. advice

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    rob4CEOSpace

    10/23/07 | Report as spam

    Consider this alternative

    Check out an organization of CEOs, business owners and entrepreneurs who are dedicated in helping each other build business in an accelerated manner. The organization is nearly 20 years old. They hold forums 5 times per year for one week periods. They bring in trainers from the Fortune level who besides giving general classes remain with the group through the week and give one-on-one coaching. It is impossible to explain it all in only a few words. You can get a better understanding by visiting their website at www.ceospace.net I have listened to so many business executives with MBAs who have attended and have told me they gained a greater business education in a one week CEO Space forum than they did with all of their MBA courses combined. Again, you can check the organization out for yourself at www.ceospace.com I'm a member of the organization and can guide you to hundreds of positive testimonies that can substantiate what I have just said. Rob

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    rob4CEOSpace

    11/08/07 | Report as spam

    www.ceospace.net

    My mind was not toatlly ingaged wehn I typed the wrong URL for the CEO Space organization. The proper URL is www.ceospace.net Sorry!

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    rellis1949@...

    10/23/07 | Report as spam

    MBA's Value

    Suggesting the MBA lacks value is somewhat analogous to suggesting a CPA lacks value to an accountant. In some cases the materials learned in an MBA program will barely extend beyond the student's existing knowledge. In other cases, especially for new entries to the business world, the MBA program will help the employee have a broader understanding of the organization as a whole.

    The MBA provides a minimum complementary benefit of competitive advantage for position selection and retention. As the number of bachelor's degrees increase in the business marketplace, the MBA degree provides a "weeding" factor that will make a prospective employee more competitive and will make an existing employee paper-qualified to meet the specifications for holding a position.

    Respectively, the overall value of an MBA degree lies more in the student's desire to learn and apply new knowledge. Many newer MBA students tend to pursue the title and not the knowledge. Regretfully, these students will fuss about unnecessary classes (classes that challenge the student's ability to think beyond their capabilities) and will reflect the student's lack of learning as an inability to put the displaced knowledge into action. The dedicated MBA will often extract new knowledge from any class and will be able to tweak that knowledge into productive actions.

    Relative to an IT-dominant MBA. I chose an MSIS years ago and found that the more focused the degree the more funnelled the perceived value of the prospective employee by the HR department. My MSIS restricted the views of HR personnel to place my abilities in pure IT jobs with no consideration for my other assets. Thus, if IT is your defined place in life then an IT-based MBA should benefit your potential to be hired into a controlling component of the IT field. However, if your desire is to pursue other areas of an organization, a focused MBA could be restricting.

    If a person wants to be viewed as more diverse in their perceived capabilities, I believe a more general MBA would be a better starting degree. The more specific discipline area could be pursued later to complement the general MBA degree and to provide the additional paper title and knowledge desired for a mangerial-based IT position. Of course, timing, age, discipline interests, and economics must also be considered in the choice to pursue two graduate level degrees. Also, talking with adminsitrators of the graduate programs to ascertain the potential for acquiring two degrees without pursuing two full sets of degree hours should also be accomplished before consdiering a general MBA complemented with a focused master's degree.

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    Dharmini

    11/01/07 | Report as spam

    MBA IT - only if you're not an IT savy person

    Hi,
    From my opinion and experience. I'd say only take MBA in IT if and only if :
    - you've no prior knowledge to networking, database management,e-commerce and programming. To sum it up - no technical knowledge of running a business online.
    - you are keen on starting up your own business and want to earn your revenue the e-commerce way.
    - you already own a business, but want to be able to use technology to improve its performance.

    If you already have sound IT knowledge, then doing MBA IT would be a waste of time and effort, not to mention money. Better use your resources to gain new knowledge like financing, marketing, people management and cyberlaw.

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    ssilva@...

    10/23/07 | Report as spam

    RE: null

    I think a marketing course is missing.

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    schipupu

    10/23/07 | Report as spam

    RE: null

    cool.

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    meimak

    10/23/07 | Report as spam

    that sound ok

    as long as there is a tlak about MBA as long as it still have the power.
    karrar
    HA studies
    Rosklide university
    Denmark

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    chetanparikh

    10/23/07 | Report as spam

    USELESS ARTICLE

    I expect better from BNET. Sorry, but I am disappointed by this article. Pleaes give better information.

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    rob4CEOSpace

    10/23/07 | Report as spam

    Useless Article?

    Useless feedback! You say "I expect better from BNET. Sorry, but I am disappointed by this article. Pleaes give better information." Where's the depth in your comments? I certainly can't see the base of your dissapointment. Actually I'm more dissappointed in your quick response to discredit the article. Give me meat into which I can dig my teeth.

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    egonz

    10/24/07 | Report as spam

    Here is the meat

    As an MBA student, I found this article amusing. Yes, I've taken some of the mentioned courses, and yes, they do provide what they indicate. However, like anything else, it is applying such concepts to the real world, is what really matters. MBA courses are very challenging and are nothing to make fun of. Imagine if the same was done for Law courses, example: "family law" how to suck the riches of dysfunctional families", not funny is it?

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    steve@...

    01/02/08 | Report as spam

    Thanks

    It is 1:46 a.m. (PST) and I am dead tired having worked on a technical issue all New Year's day and into the night. I found the article funny and relaxing... which is its intended purpose. If you don't get that, go read a freaking on-line sylabus from any of the major b-schools and try to make sense of the jargon. Is it any wonder that we refer to MBAs as Master B...S...t Artists?

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    rebecca_cofrancesco@...

    10/23/07 | Report as spam

    RE: Useless article

    I think it's hilarious! And yes, endless fodder for dilbert comic strips, which I might add are very popular in my office...

    Only one thing missing.......what do they do in marketing MBA's?

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    Mgmtneophyte

    10/23/07 | Report as spam

    Fuuny!

    Its funny but there's a cold truth to it.. especially for Finance! haha

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    danishtariq

    10/23/07 | Report as spam

    WOW

    Like, WOW...the course descriptions are just the way as has been mentioned in this article...ULTRA VAGUE...!!!!

    I must agree with what is being said in the article. I study in one of the top Business School of Pakistan. While I must stress that I am extremely thankful of being here and don't mean to undermine the potential of the institution in any way, but, at the same time, the teaching methodology needs a lot of improvement; in other words...there really isn't one to begin with. It is a perfect personification of all the five points listed in the previous section (except the one on cheating, which is severely punished by a straight F). Yet, luckily, 70-80% of the students who graduate do get excellent starter salary packages; but, at the same time, there is one sad truth - that more than 90% of the students studying there do so for the very purpose of securing a chance at the door and a higher salary package (because of the schools reputation), NOT THE LEAST BIT to learn how to do business.

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    rob4CEOSpace

    10/23/07 | Report as spam

    So sad, but true

    If you want to learn how to really do business, put yourself in the middle of a business forum that is focused on helping its members accelerate the growth of business. Imagine entrepreneurs, small business owners, middle size business CEOs and even large company CEOs getting together and working cooperatively for a one week period with leading Fortune level trainers to learn the cutting edge business methods... what is working NOW. This is a reality with an organization called CEO Space. You can check out what they do in greater detail by visiting www.ceospace.net The organization has been building on a cooperative base for nearly 20 years and meets for the week long forums 5 times per year. It?s an amazing experience. It?s an outstanding opportunity for a business person to become a member and learn how to accelerate business growth using their cooperative methods.

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    drrjagadeesh@...

    10/23/07 | Report as spam

    Lacks depth and analysis

    Curriculum design is one of the most important jobs in academics. After reading the article I was disappointed. People will have a wrong concept of what is being taught as MBA by this article.

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    rob4CEOSpace

    10/23/07 | Reported as spam

    Message has been deleted.

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    An Expat in France

    10/24/07 | Report as spam

    Are You a CEO Space Stakeholder?

    All I can say is this: The value of an MBA varies - certainly you don't have to have one to start a business. An MBA is about filling a skills gap; if you don't see a gap, then no one is going to be able to convince you that an MBA has value.

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    nketter

    10/23/07 | Report as spam

    Anti-intellectualism

    There's a wave of anti-intellectualism rolling over this country. This article is another example of it. There's no data to back up any of these assertions and many are completely false on the face of it (e.g. there's NO value to be had from business strategy?!?? Please.)

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    donmurdo

    10/23/07 | Report as spam

    Yes there is value in strategy

    Great point. As someone taking a Strat Man class right now, I can tell you that it has REALLY opened my eyes on important topics like governance, trust, and assurance in any partner relationship. The Shanghai GM w/ SAIC in China exmple is wonderful.

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    rob4CEOSpace

    10/23/07 | Report as spam

    Intellectual Challenge

    For those who believe this article is anti-intellectual, the real question is "Does the MBA program provide the needed tools to help one do the job?" Or maybe a better question, "Is the MBA program the best training instrument for business preparation?" I would challenge you to take a week of your time and get intellectually involved with the CEO Space Forum in LA in December. There, you will find many highly successful business people and entrepreneurs working together to build business... No time for all the academic theory... This organization works to "put the rubber to the road". You will see how deep it goes. The final analysis: Many with MBA degrees believe they recieve more benefit from this one week forum than they did from their MBA program. This will challenge the best of the intellectuals. What's better? It's a one time fee for a life time membership into the organization and you can return to the forum to build business 5 time a year if you wish. You build business networking relationships that last a lifetime. You can accelerate business growth with this process. What a contrast, intellects, take the challenge. For further info go to: www.ceospace.net

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    donmurdo

    10/23/07 | Report as spam

    Absolute bunk.

    Completely irresponsible and factually inaccurate articles like this one just go to prove that someone wrote a business plan, got some venture capital, and started a web site. If those people had MBA's then they would understand the last stage in the value chain - the CUSTOMER - and they would understand that the customer wants accurate, factual, and meaningful information on which to base decisions. Case in point. Saying that the most useless skill in "corporate accountability" is learning how to comply w/ SoX. As someone who works in an information security group for a Fortune 1000 corporation, I can tell you that we spend millions on labor dollars each year to comply, and that compliance does help to insure the value to the stake/share/stock holders (there are 3 types of holders - I will leave it to the author to understand them?.).

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    rob4CEOSpace

    10/23/07 | Report as spam

    Absolute bunk? I think not!

    This article challenges the status quo. If you think it's bunk it's because you approach this with limited vision like a race horse with blinders. Take a week of your time and get involved with the CEO Space Forum in LA in December. Then come back and rewrite your comments. I am certain that you will have a differeent view point. At a CEO Space forum you will find Fortune level trainers, highly successful business people and entrepreneurs working together to build business... No time for all the academic theory... This organization works to "put the rubber to the road". You will see how deep it goes. The final analysis: Many with MBA degrees believe they recieve more benefit from this one week forum than they did from their MBA program. They see their MBA program as full of bunk with much wasted time. This will challenge the best of the intellectuals. What's better? It's a one time fee for a life time membership into the organization and you can return to the forum to build business 5 time a year if you wish. You build business networking relationships that last a lifetime. You can accelerate business growth with this process. What a contrast. Want to really learn how to do business? Take the challenge. For further info go to: www.ceospace.net

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    wisdom.chitedze@...

    10/23/07 | Report as spam

    RE: null

    I am halfway thru my MBA and I am paying for it myself and I often wonder why I am wasting my time and money? Anyway, I love the fact that I am kept busy and my brain engaged. Besides the general approach to many different courses still leaves some useful residue in my brain, and being an aspiring academic, I need a Masters even if its only to be a key to something else. But yeah it tends to be frustrating and sometimes the contradictions from lecturers in the same school and the enthusiastic sharing of blah blah blah from millionaire writers tends to be boring. I am like "thats what they think, what do you think?"

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    jicaza

    10/23/07 | Report as spam

    RE: null

    I think that if u go to an interview and they ask u about your mba an you summarize your answer following the subtitles of this article you will do very well actually...

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    msdona4@...

    10/23/07 | Report as spam

    Re: Lacks depth and analysis

    The article gave a lot of insight and "humor" to what is really going on in corporate America. For some, who thought this article was useless, lighten up already! You have to be able to understand the real workings of the business world. 99% of this article is the truth behind the real meaning of some of the courses we spend millions of dollars to attend in order to get a degree we hope, will set us financially free. I'm not saying the courses are useless I have taken the same courses and yes, I have a Masters Degree in Organizational Management. Just know what the "Truth" really is....you make the degree,the degree does not make you.

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    rob4CEOSpace

    10/23/07 | Report as spam

    Yes! Lighten UP! don't take yourself so seriously

    I spent 33 years in the academic world. I know just how much time is spent in the development of the curriculum. I also know how much academic fluff can be placed into any given course. In any program where there is "on the job training" involved, students get a fresh perspective of what is being taught. It often seems there is an abyss between the academic and the practical real world. I wonder how much change would be made in an MBA program if periodically the college or university brought in men and women with at least 15 years in the business world and placed them under the existing curriculum and then allowed them to give feedback. Now maybe that curriculum would be worth $100,000. The final courses in any program should be after the student has had the opportunity to be in the work place, has learned what is expected and then comes back with questions to the classroom. Imagine the lively discussions.

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    phil938

    10/23/07 | Report as spam

    pretty cynical take....

    Either the author himself did a Univ of Phoenix MBA (a McMaster's), or he's spending his time feeling better about his lack of formal education....

    I agree that the value of an MBA is only what you make of it, but give me a break!

    I greatly admire (and I also work for) small business owners/entrepreneurs who had a great idea, and learned on the job to turn the idea into a business... however there is something to be said for experienced, EDUCATED business people that have a grasp of the practical AND a knowledge of business cycles, the business environment, finance, etc. I would select the latter group any day, coupled with a good idea, to take a few million of investors' dollars and turn them into a thriving, strong, growing business with a potential for an IPO one day.

    This is why we see private equity groups being so succesful these days...

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    rob4CEOSpace

    10/23/07 | Report as spam

    How about a third group?

    What if you take that first group, the small business owners/entrepreneurs with great ideas, energy and ambition and gave them the opportunity to get together with your second group, the experienced, educated business people who actually train at the Fortune level. Would that not make for a very practical education for all? That's what occurs at a CEO Space Free Enterprise Forum. It's a week long experience of training, interacting with the instructors and networking among the participants. Just imagine the resources available in one week in a group composed of start-ups, beginner entrepreneurs, experienced business owners wanting to expand already successful businesses, CEOs of established companies along with the most outstanding business trainers you can assemble. What do you think this organization would look like after years of interacting/ networking in this way five times each year? You can check it out for yourself at a one week CEO Space forum. Check it out at:www.ceospace.net

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    mage01

    10/23/07 | Report as spam

    MBA NBA do what you gotta do!

    Do what you gotta do to get where you wanta be. HUH?
    Yeah it the elements of survival. If you investigate a MBA and like what it has to
    offer then thats what you'll do, and you may be successful if you stay
    determined. I can down any degree because it's a really a place that you go to
    build on who you are, maybe good, maybe bad. If you don't think a MBA will help
    you then, don't get a MBA. I loved my MBA and will learn more after my MBA. I
    learn every day and will continue to learn more.

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    antoniog

    10/23/07 | Report as spam

    RE: null

    dasd

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    ibizenberg@...

    10/23/07 | Report as spam

    wit or cynicism?

    How sad that Mr. James has confused cynicism for wit. I expect more from him
    and BNet -- a website I recommend to my business school students.

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    Geoffrey James, Sales Machine

    10/23/07 | Report as spam

    Wit and cynicism.

    I was trying to be half-cynical and half-witty.

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    bartoner

    10/23/07 | Report as spam

    RE: null

    Cite some resources with real people attatched to the research and claim

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    Mikhal

    10/23/07 | Report as spam

    How did Metallica Know?

    "Sad but True"

    These articles capture the truth about the MBA micro world. Since my MBA, the most important thing I have learned is that my "club membership degree" is actually one hellava bill.

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    wrl500@...

    10/23/07 | Report as spam

    Secret Guide...

    Spot on.

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    nschandra@...

    10/23/07 | Report as spam

    RE: null

    Obviously written by some non MBA , who may also perhaps gloat over the failures of their MBA colleagues.

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    Hazarika

    10/24/07 | Report as spam

    RE: null

    I think the basic problem is not taking MBA as a part of the "education" process. MBA education in a formal university should be treated just like any other post gradaute course. Instead we want to treat MBA course as "training" graduates to be "industry ready". I think we "train" animals while "educate' human beings.

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    An Expat in France

    10/24/07 | Report as spam

    OK Comedy; Bad Analysis

    The Dilbert reference is appropriate (in that it correctly identifies the target audience for this article). To be sure, the most important managerial skills are developed over time, and cannot be fully internalized over the course of 2 years in B-School (much less over the course of an "executive MBA"). But as more and more managers are coming from technical backgrounds, US B-Schools are rightly valued for providing students with a framework for "big-picture" and theoretical perspective to which many of these managers have not previously been exposed. This article does stike a humorous note, but the title is misleading. We still have to live in the real business world; hence this article belongs right along side Dilbert, and should be considered about equal to that comic in terms of it's business value.

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    Geoffrey James, Sales Machine

    10/24/07 | Report as spam

    Equal to Dilbert

    That's the best compliment I've had all year! Thanks!

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    An Expat in France

    10/25/07 | Report as spam

    Equal to Dilbert

    Actually, the comparison was indeed, intended as a compliment. Too many people take articles like this too seriously. I think that a lot of what is presented in an MBA program is irrelevant, and much of it can be learned on the street. But wherever you get your education, if it closes a gap in your skill set, it's valuable. It's good to have a discussion about this stuff, but some people take it literally (read: much too seriously). Being able laugh about things like this is what makes the tedious aspects of a job bearable. That's the value of Dilbert - and that's the value of articles like this. Keep it up.

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    joelzh

    10/25/07 | Report as spam

    Finance or accounting?

    You must have slept or WOWed through these two classes.

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    arnoldzimbiri

    10/30/07 | Report as spam

    Quite Funny

    I have enjoyed this article especially the light on organisational Behavoiur! Loll!1

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    roxanam

    10/30/07 | Report as spam

    different persective from different countries

    happy
    the level of knowledge and the grade a mba is useful varies with the target public; e.g. in my country, which recently has joined EU, it is still valuable for business and wanted by the managers ans aspirants

    I enjoyed, anyway happy

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    dornenburg

    01/02/08 | Report as spam

    What is the MBA for?

    I find it interesting that many of the comments suggest that the MBA be taken by people with business experience as a cure, as this is precisely the audience it was originally designed for--not 22 year olds coming out of a business undergraduate degree. When the MBA was first conceived, managers with any college education were graduates of liberal arts institutions with degrees in everything from literature to the sciences. Finance was just freeing itself from economics as a separate academic discipline, and there were no undergraduate business programs anywhere.

    The reason strategy appears useless is that it is nothing but words to someone without fairly high level experience in a competitive environment--and competing for grades doesn't really count. The same can be said for organization behavior. Both of these disciplines require that the student bring something to the table before they become meaningful.

    Business schools are businesses and will continue to offer inappropriate material until people stop enrolling (buying the product). Notice that the newest fad is a degree in leadership--as if either character or charisma can be taught! But the demand is there...

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    Adsum100

    01/02/08 | Report as spam

    Yeah...but, so what...

    The argument made by this article is the same old same- you can make the same argument about any education beyond k-12.....just like that Calculus class I HAD to take to be well rounded and truly have never used, some of these classes fall under this as well....of course, if you believe I received some benefit from Calculus even if it was just another way to think, you would be able to say the same for these classes......school is what you make it.....

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    cityju@...

    01/02/08 | Report as spam

    Can you speak more than So what

    You were born of this earth.So what?

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    tgreig@...

    01/02/08 | Report as spam

    Article Not Good

    I agree - I expect better from BNET. Thought this would be an good overview document - not just a joke!

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    Edsahara

    01/03/08 | Report as spam

    Stop smoking crack

    Are you people working for Mad Magazine now?

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    ProfRamki

    01/04/08 | Report as spam

    RE: The Secret Guide to the MBA Curriculum

    Pretty much what I think! I am glad that things are becoming more transparent, thanks to IT and Web.

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    jeichenlaub4

    01/18/08 | Report as spam

    RE: The Secret Guide to the MBA Curriculum

    Surprisingly, you can actually spell MBA! This intellectual and insightful article is surpassed only by the fact that I did not have to waste paper to read it! Thanks for wasting my time. I will now unsubscribe from bnet news.

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    sfoRealityBytes

    03/22/08 | Report as spam

    CEOSpace is the biggest con around

    I went to a meeting near my end of the woods at the request of a friend and former coworker.

    When I got there, I found people who were small businesses looking to invent things that were already invented years ago or selling trinkets that they thought were impressive.

    That aside, after meeting a number of these 'winners', a person who drank the kool-aid gave her pitch -- ironically she did admit it was a sales pitch (which I bet the CEO probably lambasted her for after the fact) followed by a video that smacked of multi-level-scams that anyone who has an ounce of common sense knows to avoid.

    Following this 'dog and pony show' the CEO of CEOspace gave a pitch that not only was designed to tug at the heartstrings of people by using stories that were so beyond insane (like the story of a nine year old girl who wanted to create "last birthday party" salons instead of "funeral homes") and other hairbrained schemes that make the crap on Donny Deutsch sound feasible, he explained that he has a "network" of the top CEOs in the world -- who out of the goodness of their hearts have agreed to help him and others become successful.

    This whole love fest got so bad that I demanded to my normally gullible friend that we should leave. However, he begged me to stay for the "best part" -- where the CEO spoke to individuals in a small group setting where he shares his sage wisdom to everyone.

    This part was by far the biggest most complete waste of time ever. The advice he gave my friend would not only bankrupt him, it would ensure that he would NEVER get any money for his business. When I gave him 'my' idea (I made up some bogus story just to see what he said) and he told me he couldn't help me UNLESS I went to his 5 day retreat in Anaheim which only cost $20,000 PER PERSON.

    I was so disgusted after this that I just left. Long story short, the difference between CEOspace and Amway is that CEOspace is sleazier than Amway!

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    snadler

    08/12/08 | Report as spam

    RE: The Secret Guide to the MBA Curriculum

    funny?

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    onelia

    08/12/08 | Report as spam

    Very Funny

    And true.

    I am currently completing mine in Business Management at an extremely well respected institution and am finding that my undergraduate degree in hospitality management from a non-respected institution was far more challenging. In my opinion one should not be able to put in less effort, do less reading and still get better marks than they did in their undergrad.

    I will say one thing that I am enjoying, finally doing a course where the marks lie on the side of explaining and applying the theories instead of just quoting them.

    One thing I am not enjoying, the assumption by acedemics that something someone wrote 50 years ago is still 100% relevant today.

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    Arvindcares

    08/12/08 | Report as spam

    We need to create value our self.

    oing thru MBA any other professional program is kind of ' necessary' event of career today.
    But after we have that 'paper', we create value our self.
    U can see for yourself - 40 MBA/ doctors /lawyers/engineers or hospitalitt professiobnal passing from same college, same year/ same curriculum establish at very different 'levels' over next few years; why?
    There is 'something' NO-ONE can teach, no curriculum can teach.
    Arvind www.caretogrow.org

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    waellis

    08/14/08 | Report as spam

    RE: The Secret Guide to the MBA Curriculum

    Enjoyable reading. I recently received an executive MBA at age 58. I loved every minute of it. The most useful skill that I acquired was how to read my medical group's financial statements. My only regret is that I did not do it earlier in life.

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    dcflorida

    10/13/08 | Report as spam

    RE: The Secret Guide to the MBA Curriculum

    All of the subjects described in the curriculim are necessities in business, particularly as one moves up toward executive management and potential new directions become increasingly theoretical. Peruse job postings for executive positions and you will see most now require or "prefer" an MBA, along with 10-15 years of experience in the relevant industry.

    I've heard MBAs dismissed as unnecessary luxuries because "everyone's got one." While increased supply does diminish the extensive rewards one can gain from an uncommon advantage, when certain degrees become the norm it is then a disadvantage NOT to have one. This has been proven true in the case of bachelor degrees over the past 30 years. Though once thought of as an unnecessary luxury, they quickly became the minimum entrance requirement to the majority of professional positions. I believe this is now happening with executive positions and MBAs.

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    zenpilgrim

    10/17/08 | Report as spam

    RE: The Secret Guide to the MBA Curriculum

    "Imagine if the same was done for Law courses, example: "family law" how to suck the riches of dysfunctional families", not funny is it?"

    I think thats totally hilarious. The problem with all these programs that try to make "professionals" out of their fields of study is that they get so inwardly focused that they start to belive all this stuff they put out as there...and they lose their sense of humor

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    lynn1463@...

    10/17/08 | Report as spam

    RE: The Secret Guide to the MBA Curriculum

    Thank you for making me laugh out loud!

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    lynn1463@...

    10/17/08 | Report as spam

    RE: The Secret Guide to the MBA Curriculum

    Thank you for making me laugh out loud!

    Does anyone know of a successful undergrad program for pursuing a (sincere) green collar career marketing?
    Thanks!
    Lynn

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    RickBodey

    10/19/08 | Report as spam

    RE: The Secret Guide to the MBA Curriculum

    Most Useless Skill: "Actually understanding what open-
    source software is."

    Wow Mr. James! This is exactly why so many businesses
    are failing in the new Digital Convergence of the world.

    Knowing what drives your company and the software it
    uses is essential to overall strategy and competitive advantage.

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    kgsatheesh

    10/21/08 | Report as spam

    RE: The Secret Guide to the MBA Curriculum

    Most useful skill: Arriving at early decisions based on discussions
    Most useless skill: Debating endlessly

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    st.kpo01@...

    02/01/09 | Report as spam

    RE: The Secret Guide to the MBA Curriculum

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    New Jobs

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    st.kpo01@...

    02/01/09 | Report as spam

    RE: The Secret Guide to the MBA Curriculum

    Hi guys,

    Myself NYK from Canada and I am a IT graduate from Manipal University. I like to join MBA classes because it is a professional course. It is highly reputed course. The syllabus is very interesting. Thanks

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